BuzzH
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What kind of insurance then? Go on...
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VA should take the money being spent on the VA facilities etc and instead use it to provide full coverage for veteran health care elsewhere.
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You are such an arrogant dick and nobody will call you on it. I just talked to my brother who is a retired Lt Colonel. He is on a veterans disability with a complete lung transplant that is related to his service in the U.S. Army. He is under constant care for this disability and he told me he is receiving continual monitoring and evaluation for this condition. He lives at home and can live as normal a life as you can with a lung transplant. He is not concerned about the cuts that are being made in the government, and you want to make it look like anyone needing care will be neglected and that just isn’t true…
BuzzH
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They already are being neglected. Have you been asleep for the past 20 years?
Try reading the article I posted, staffing shortages all across the VA. Care to explain how cutting 1000 jobs is going to help address that and how cutting staff is leading to a better outcome for Veterans?
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BuzzH
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Cost analysis and you still didn't say who the insurance carriers would be?
I’m far from an expert on the VA, but I know friends who struggle with getting care, and would attribute the lack of ability to getting care to the suicide of one last year, whom was my friend since we were 8 years old. I’ve always thought the VA should be more like what treeshark said, An insurance program. Veterans, especially those wounded in combat, should be able to go to any private hospital and get any care they need and the American taxpayers should pay for it. If we are going to keep electing people that are going to send them overseas to get killed or wounded, it really is the least we can do.
The US government.
I am not trying to disparage the caregivers within the VA- I know many of them join for the right reason (and am personally familiar with some who joined for less-virtuous reasons, unfortunately).
On balance, I feel that the level of care outside the VA framework is superior.
BuzzH
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Sorry to hear about your friend, that's horrible.
Psychology was the most frequently reported clinical occupation with severe staffing shortages
I couldn’t agree more. I don’t care if it pencils out to be more or less expensive, it’s the right thing to do.
That’s because they make more money in the private sector, same as pretty much all other specialities.
BuzzH
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Why can't the VA pay competitively?
I don’t mean to offend you, but for the same reason the USFS doesn’t: because they aren’t competing with anyone.
ismith
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Good question, they don’t seem to have trouble spending lots of money.
BuzzH
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Really? You just said the reason there's shortages in psychology is because psychologists make more money working in the private sector, did you not?
Sure sounds like the VA is competing based on what they can, or more to the point, can't pay psychologists.
It shouldn't come as any shock that big for profit clinics, hospitals, etc. lobby the living shit out of congress to keep salary caps on VA employees. The last thing the private sector wants is to compete for Drs., Nurses, Psychologists, etc. with the VA.
Go to D.C. for a week and pay attention to name tags and who is there lobbying...
BTDT way too many times, and it's flat disgusting.
Ha oh Buzz. I was unaware you are a healthcare expert too.
I get the feeling you’re pissed off at what’s going on (justifiably so) and just here to taking out some frustration. This argument won’t solve anything or improve Hunt Talk, I’m going to take a break from this one.
I get the feeling you’re pissed off at what’s going on (justifiably so) and just here to taking out some frustration. This argument won’t solve anything or improve Hunt Talk, I’m going to take a break from this one.
jryoung
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Expanding Loan forgiveness programs could be a big puzzle piece.
Carnage2011
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My dad is a disabled veteran that uses the VA all the time with no issues. However, he lives a couple miles from the VA in Helena and I think that's definitely advantageous as opposed to a more populated area. He's had multiple surgeries, PT, and cancer treatment through it without a hiccup.
Without a deep dive into the day to day function of the VA as a whole, it would be impossible to say what effects the cuts will have. Businesses can get more efficient with less people. I'm not saying that will be the case here, but more people isn't always a correlation to better business.
Without a deep dive into the day to day function of the VA as a whole, it would be impossible to say what effects the cuts will have. Businesses can get more efficient with less people. I'm not saying that will be the case here, but more people isn't always a correlation to better business.
RemingtonRules
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What I found.
As of February 2025, the United States Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) employed over 473,000people, including probationary employees. The VA is the second largest department in the federal government, after the Department of Defense
I am not sure adding 1,000 or subtracting 1,000 is the problem. It seems more how they are structured and deploying resources. Too much red tape I would assume. Need to get it fixed. It has gone on too long.
BuzzH
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I pay attention...you should try it.
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