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[INMT]

When Utah says let’s transfer public lands to states, Hunt Talk is up in arms.

When Chester Cheeto funds GAOA in his first term to target deferred maintenance, then let’s Project 2025 drive his agenda in his second term, half of Hunt Talk is like: wait and see what happens. He cares about us.

 

[brockel]

My thought is this whole thread after page 2 has turned into a hormonal 13 year old girl. Who just watched her beloved crush get roses from her favorite enemy on Valentine’s Day.

Kinda the trend of hunttalk anymore

 

[noharleyyet]

When Utah says let’s transfer public lands to states, Hunt Talk is up in arms.

When Chester Cheeto funds GAOA in his first term to target deferred maintenance, then let’s Project 2025 drive his agenda in his second term, half of Hunt Talk is like: wait and see what happens. He cares about us.

Half?

 

[longbow51]

The latest revelation that really bothers me is that a huge proportion of the money spent by junior enlisted (if they have families, poverty level) service members was diverted to something while they were fed crap. After fighting a 20 year war.

Over $151 Million Taken from Soldiers' Paychecks for Food Costs Spent Elsewhere by the Army

The money is collected in what amounts to a tax on troops -- taken from their Basic Allowance for Subsistence payments, roughly $460 per month that is automatically deducted from the paychecks of service members.

www.military.com

 

[Nick87]

The latest revelation that really bothers me is that a huge proportion of the money spent by junior enlisted (if they have families, poverty level) service members was diverted to something while they were fed crap. After fighting a 20 year war.

Over $151 Million Taken from Soldiers' Paychecks for Food Costs Spent Elsewhere by the Army

The money is collected in what amounts to a tax on troops -- taken from their Basic Allowance for Subsistence payments, roughly $460 per month that is automatically deducted from the paychecks of service members.

www.military.com

I'd be curious to see where that actually went.

 

[BuzzH]

The latest revelation that really bothers me is that a huge proportion of the money spent by junior enlisted (if they have families, poverty level) service members was diverted to something while they were fed crap. After fighting a 20 year war.

Over $151 Million Taken from Soldiers' Paychecks for Food Costs Spent Elsewhere by the Army

The money is collected in what amounts to a tax on troops -- taken from their Basic Allowance for Subsistence payments, roughly $460 per month that is automatically deducted from the paychecks of service members.

www.military.com

But no problem with the VA firing (via president musk's directive) 1000 probationary employees that care for veterans?

Faux outrage, at its finest.

 

[Carnage2011]

But no problem with the VA firing (via president musk's directive) 1000 probationary employees that care for veterans?

Faux outrage, at its finest.

Can’t we agree that both of these are shitty things? Or is it all about the whataboutism?

 

[BuzzH]

Can’t we agree that both of these are shitty things? Or is it all about the whataboutism?

Oh sure.

However, IMO, having veterans suffering from all kinds of illnesses, diseases, cancer, etc. longer than they have to because 1000 people were fired for no cause that can help them...just seems a bigger deal than junk food.

Could be too I just got off the phone with a very good friend of mine that uses the VA for his cancer treatments from exposure to agent orange.

He's the guy on the right in this picture.

 

[hank4elk]

Good thing I never been to the VA. By choice.
Been understaffed for 50 years that I know.

Still have not gotten my 1099 from SS.
Wonder if I will, or get my check this month.

Elonia has the keys now.

 

[shrapnel]

Oh sure.

However, IMO, having veterans suffering from all kinds of illnesses, diseases, cancer, etc. longer than they have to because 1000 people were fired for no cause that can help them...just seems a bigger deal than junk food.

Could be too I just got off the phone with a very good friend of mine that uses the VA for his cancer treatments from exposure to agent orange.

He's the guy on the right in this picture.

Are you saying he will no longer get treatment from the VA?

 

[BuzzH]

Are you saying he will no longer get treatment from the VA?

The level of service for Veterans is already suspect due to staffing shortages.

Is it your contention that care will be better with 1000 less staff?

Or is it that you just hate veterans and would rather keep that extra dollar in taxes you pay in your pocket? You sound like a true patriot.

 

[ismith]

But no problem with the VA firing (via president musk's directive) 1000 probationary employees that care for veterans?

Faux outrage, at its finest.

Plenty of money wasted by the VA that should be benefiting veterans and is not.

 

[BuzzH]

Plenty of money wasted by the VA that should be benefiting veterans and is not.

How is firing 1000 staff going to help that? Go on...

Firing 1000 probationary employees will be a big help in dealing with this problem:

OIG Determination of Veterans Health Administration’s Severe Occupational Staffing Shortages Fiscal Year 2024

The VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017 (VCQEA) requires the VA Office of Inspector General (OIG) to determine, annually, a minimum of five clinical and five nonclinical Veterans Health Administration (VHA) occupations with the largest staffing shortages within each VHA medical center (f

www.vaoig.gov

The OIG surveyed VHA-identified facility points of contact to determine severe occupational staffing shortages at each facility. Among the most significant findings in this year’s staffing report were the following:

• Facilities reported 2,959 severe occupational staffing shortages in fiscal year (FY) 2024. This was a 5 percent decrease from FY 2023.

• Every year since 2014, the Medical Officer and Nurse occupations were identified as severe shortages in OIG’s annual determination of occupational staffing shortages reports. In FY 2024, 86 percent of facilities reported severe occupational staffing shortages for Medical Officer, and 82 percent of facilities reported severe shortages for Nurse.

• Psychology was the most frequently reported clinical occupation with severe staffing shortages and the most frequently reported Hybrid 38 severe shortage occupation. Custodial Worker was the most frequently reported nonclinical occupation staffing shortage.

• Of the 139 facilities surveyed, 137 reported at least one severe occupational staffing shortage, while two facilities identified no severe occupational staffing shortages.

 

[ismith]

How is firing 1000 staff going to help that?

I agree, they should be firing a many more than that. A lot of veterans, including myself, would like to see some major changes to the archaic VA medical system.

 

[JDH]

Even if it were true, there are massive corporations that get a complete 'pass' by most folks simply because they are privately owned and can carefully manage the information their customers and shareholders see. My brother worked for Boeing and BMW, among others, and the stories he had about waste and lazy employees rivaled anything that ever came out of a fox news anchor's mouth about federal workers. People are people anywhere they work. Lazy people will be lazy. Hard workers will work hard. It matters not the employer. What matters is how they were raised.

I've personally seen factory workers sleeping on shift at a local factory. Their primary customer isn't DoD, but they do produce things for them.

 

[ismith]

Good thing I never been to the VA. By choice.
Been understaffed for 50 years that I know.

Still have not gotten my 1099 from SS.
Wonder if I will, or get my check this month.

Elonia has the keys now.

Critically understaffed with the people that are actually needed to treat veterans. Community care went along ways to improving the health care veterans receive, but even that program has a massive amount of waste.

 

[Treeshark]

I agree, they should be firing a many more than that. A lot of veterans, including myself, would like to see some major changes to the archaic VA medical system.

Veterans would probably be better served if the VA would transition from a medical system to an insurance provider, imo.

 

[BuzzH]

Veterans would probably be better served if the VA would transition from a medical system to an insurance provider, imo.

Right, so they can be denied treatment by a CEO because it cuts into profits.

For instance:

Ogden man denied lifesaving liver transplant by insurance company

An Ogden man has been denied a lifesaving liver transplant from his brother by his insurance company.

kutv.com

 

[Treeshark]

Right, so they can be denied treatment by a CEO because it cuts into profits.

For instance:

Ogden man denied lifesaving liver transplant by insurance company

An Ogden man has been denied a lifesaving liver transplant from his brother by his insurance company.

kutv.com

Why would the VA have a CEO? I’m not saying it should be privatized insurance.

 

[BuzzH]

Why would the VA have a CEO? I’m not saying it should be privatized insurance.

What kind of insurance then? Go on...