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this is what our deserts in the south looks like due to illegals
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And here is a picture of what the desert south of here looks like due to Fat-Assed ATV riders.....



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I would have to say the garbage from the illegals could be cleaned up in 20 minutes. The tracks and damage from the Fat-Assed ATV riders will take longer to be removed.
 
I can show you pics as bad if not worse from mountain bikes. Trails just as bad from hikers, horses and cattle. I now think we should get rid of everyone that uses the public lands. ;)

Not a pretty site gunner and it is good to have you back. ;)
 
I just came from the border....no comparison to the damage that the illegals do! not even close.... plus its like comparing apples to oranges.....ATV`s don`t shit in streams and riparian areas....I have never ever seen atv`s do the MONUMENTAL damage to the habitat that illegals do. hump [not in AZ].

Gunner what part of
Phx. did you move to? :) :D

Elkhunter have you ever been to Mexico?... trashing the environment is a way of life. |oo
 
break ins

Illegals break in trailers and cabins around here a lot. They do it for food and water. They leave water running where its scarce. I think that's the main damage around here from them. Worse than bears, they're smarter about getting to human food and water.
 
Larry you can`t say "beaner' its racist and includes American citizens who happen to be of hispanic or Mexican heritage... i know you are as sick of the illegals as i am...but not all illegals are Mexicans...19% are OTM`s. If you use language with racial overtones....well you just play right into the hands of the anti-american scum who scream RACISM, every time someone tries to do the right thing for the country [my 2 cents] :D :) hump
 
Doing the right thing for your country might be better suited by phone calls and letters to you Assemblymen, Commissioners, Representatives, Senators, Congressmen.
 
Elkhunter GET A CLUE!... me and MILLIONS of other Americans have been writing /calling/faxing everyone and their brother in Washington,D.C. and our home state for over 10 years. They are not listening.... Gee did you just get off of the bus or what. You need to pay ATTENTION!
 
Kudos to CJ for taking Larry to task for the racist comments. Although for the wrong reasons.....

Elkhunter,
I think in the grand scheme of things, you are correct not to be paranoid of this issue like CJ and the Arizona Ass Clowns Association.... The real damage to our Nation is the Fat-Assed ATV Clowns like the second picture depicts.
 
LOL YRH :D

I do agree with him and others that the illeagals are a big problem. Just not the end of the world. It has been going on for many years, will be going on for many more and the minutemen will not change that. I too wish the govt would get a handle on it.
 
cjcj- "the sky is falling, the sky is falling". I wonder where I've heard that before?!
 
There still " BEANERS" and there is some decent mexican americans out there who pay taxes and do there part as a us citizen. Don't mean to come off as racist because I'am really not. Maybe the term " uncivilized " might suit it better.

So I guess this brings us back to beginning and thats " What can we do to prevent this it from happing ? "
 
How can you compare tire tracks to trash? I just don't understand how you claim to be a defender of your national parks/forests/refuges/monuments/wilderness areas etc. and not be irate at the damage done by illegals. The ATV tracks will take 2 seasons of rain by mother nature to correct and the plastic bottles will take 1000 years to decompose. Why don't you join us for the trash cleanup next weekend?

here's a little factoid for you--Recycling a one-gallon plastic milk jug will save enough energy to keep a 100-watt bulb burning for 11 hours.


so let's say there are 5 million water bottles in the southern Arizona desert (probably a conservative estimate considering the 500,000 illegals that cross here every year carrying 3-4 bottles each), that's enough electricity to keep a 100 watt light bulb going for 2.3 million years. Come on down and help us clean up!

It sure would be nice to sit around and complain about ATV damage..we in Arizona don't have that luxury though.
 
go on the east side of apache junction , thats what it looks like where alot of people go shooting and dont pick up their spent casings..
 
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