Non-resident fees… according to Google AI

[Forkyfinder]

What percentage of your non federal taxes goes to the F&G or to manage public lands? Just a question. I Google AI it and wondered if you get the same. If it is a non-resident funds better then you

Schmalts! Such a relevant question. Im a numbers guy - and also a smart ass - so i had sort of planned presenting this to some carp thatd probably ignore it. So im glad youll read it.

As far as the non fed taxes going to those agencies - not a dime. Those all goto the states or partially back to the feds for transportation (gas tax).

For straight up fed taxes - about 0.5% of the budget. This isnt really a cost as the dept of interior are cash positive according to P2025. Pretty remarkable that they turn a profit if you ask me. So in reality - no one is paying taxes to own federal land. Its just a cheesey talking point. If someone doesnt believe me on that - start about 15 minutes into uncle randys doge ideas - or look at P2025 yourself.

 

[seeth07]

But it's really dissegenous to say as a whole non resident hunters are paying the same amount of taxes as residents as a whole

Right and I don't believe since I drive through WI and buy some fuel I'm somehow entitled to cheap NR tags there.

This is exactly why I'm finding myself use and contribute to HT less and less. People only hear what they want to hear because I never stated that a NR pays more taxes than a R and I never stated that by paying taxes you are entitled to cheap NR tags. Somehow my words pointing out that a NR does indeed pay state taxes and the Google AI statement is false got me there.

 

[Forkyfinder]

This is exactly why I'm finding myself use and contribute to HT less and less. People only hear what they want to hear because I never stated that a NR pays more taxes than a R and I never stated that by paying taxes you are entitled to cheap NR tags. Somehow my words pointing out that a NR does indeed pay state taxes and the Google AI statement is false got me there.

How many times does this come up, more so with treecarp? Multiple times per week is my guess.

 

[Treeshark]

Don’t blame me for this one, I didn’t start this thread (but I was tagged in it).

 

[Forkyfinder]

Don’t blame me for this one, I didn’t start this thread (but I was tagged in it).

Ah yes. @Wildabeest just tagged you and buzz, randomly.

 

[Treeshark]

Ah yes. @Wildabeest just tagged you and buzz, randomly.

He probably did so for the same reason you always do

At least this subject has something to do with hunting and public land.

 

[Forkyfinder]

He probably did so for the same reason you always do

At least this subject has something to do with hunting and public land.

So yeah - whatd you think of the fact you dont pay taxes for the federal land?

 

[Treeshark]

So yeah - whatd you think of the fact you dont pay taxes for the federal land?

That’s not even remotely true.

 

[Forkyfinder]

That’s not even remotely true.

Yeah? Prove it.

 

[Treeshark]

Yeah? Prove it.

This reminds me of the time @BuzzH claimed Wyoming self-funded the management of their wildlife. It’s so ridiculous and so far from reality that it’s hard to even know where to start.

 

[Forkyfinder]

This reminds me of the time @BuzzH claimed Wyoming self-funded the management of their wildlife. It’s so ridiculous and so far from reality that it’s hard to even know where to start.

Start here. Assuming that you are aware that 19.6>18.9

 

[Forkyfinder]

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Start here. Assuming that you are aware that 19.6>18.9

@Treeshark let me know if i need to make it simpler

Im gonna post a link to this thread, each time i hear some insufferable comment about you being entitled to shit (typically tags) in the west by paying taxes for federal land.

 

[Treeshark]

You do you, big dirty!

 

[Wildabeest]

Ah yes. @Wildabeest just tagged you and buzz, randomly.

 

[Forkyfinder]

You do you, big dirty!

Sounds good- keep living with your head in the sand!

This is what you always do when you cant muster any facts to support your argument. I cant decide if its sheer ignorance, lack of intellect, or it ruins the nice fairytale youve told yourself about being entitled to wildlife in a state you dont reside.

 

[seeth07]

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Start here. Assuming that you are aware that 19.6>18.9

All genuine questions because I honestly don't know - Regarding the 19.6 billion in revenue from oil and gas royalties, does 100% of it stay within the DOI? Where do they invest and use the surplus 0.7 billion if that is the case?

 

[schmalts]

So yeah - whatd you think of the fact you dont pay taxes for the federal land?

The question I posed was what taxes you pay other than federal tax goes to fund your State FWP because you seem to think as a state resident you fund your wildlife much more than a non-resident hunter. I don't even know what state you live in. It's just a simple question and nothing to do with tag distribution. Example... property tax, road tax, ect. You kind of side stepped that. You're comment that you pay taxes made me assume that you think you fund your FWP and wildlife more per individual than say a non-resident that holds a Deer Elk combo. Can you elaborate?

 

[Forkyfinder]

All genuine questions because I honestly don't know - Regarding the 19.6 billion in revenue from oil and gas royalties, does 100% of it stay within the DOI? Where do they invest and use the surplus 0.7 billion if that is the case?

On that topic - im not sure. I seem to recall bigfin saying it goes back to the gen fund

 

[Forkyfinder]

The question I posed was what taxes you pay other than federal tax goes to fund your State FWP. Example... property tax, road tax, ect. You kind of side stepped that. You're comment that you pay taxes made me assume that you think you fund your FWP and wildlife more per individual than say a non-resident that holds a Deer Elk combo. Can you elaborate?

That would be categorically false and not something i meant to imply. Non residents are the cash cow to fund the FWP in the state of montana.

You are quite correct - if you hunt here as a NR - you did more to fund the game/fish dept than a R did.

 

[Forkyfinder]

What percentage of your non federal taxes goes to the F&G or to manage public lands? Just a question. I Google AI it and wondered if you get the same. If it is a non-resident funds better then you

Plus i forgot about PR dollars.