ismith
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I miss the diabetic shock (nerds) blizzard. Probably couldn’t eat one now though anyways.My wife and I just went to DQ for blizzards.
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I miss the diabetic shock (nerds) blizzard. Probably couldn’t eat one now though anyways.My wife and I just went to DQ for blizzards.
How many acres of land did we have back then vs now. Is it more efficient to outsource some of the efforts, range management, fire management, trail maintenance, ect to 3rd party contractors? There’s many ways to redistribute labor and funds to accomplish the same amount of work Idk, it’s an interesting stat but I’d image per capita workers/public land fluctuates based on the number of projects each year.
My mind also goes to the Industrial Revolution efficiency/innovation. and what it did to farmers/farmable acres. I’m not discrediting your comment just interested to discuss some of the detailed insights people might have. Same goes for a lot of manufacturing getting displaced with automation and more skilled roles or higher paying jobs. Drone surveying vs manual, ect., ect.
I remember back when I was a teen DQ had a blueberry blizzard made with fresh blueberries and blueberry syrup. That was good stuff.I miss the diabetic shock (nerds) blizzard. Probably couldn’t eat one now though anyways.
I’m not kidding myself. Look at the governments cost to send stuff to orbit vs. SpaceX. Innovation can bring down prices significantly to the point it often makes sense to contract work out. Sure maybe trail building is a bad example but that’s probably a very small % of the work being done by the USFS.Which costs more - GS-4 maintenance people or fleets of private contractors? Lets not kid ourselves.
The industrial revolution gave us a seriously mixed bag for the world of agriculture. We got bigger yields off the land, but we also got the dust bowl, the massive loss of small family farms, and almost total reliance on bank/government loans for those small farms that remain. The Grapes of Wrath wasn't just made up off the top of Steinbeck's head.
Huh?I’m not kidding myself. Look at the governments cost to send stuff to orbit vs. SpaceX. Innovation can bring down prices significantly to the point it often makes sense to contract work out. Sure maybe trail building is a bad example but that’s probably a very small % of the work being done by the USFS.
My question was directed at the stats @Nameless Range posted about demand on public land has gone up 42% in the last 35 years but the work force is half. I think the same could go for a lot of industry.
It brings up a lot of questions in my head. We used to build houses with hammers and nails. Now we use cordless nail guns and even pre fabricated walls. Production/man hour goes up with innovation. Why about the dreaded self checkout at the grocery store. I’d imagine you reach a saturation of trails/acre at some point and that turns into more of a maintenance/sustainability effort.
Just looking for insight from industry people on the topic cause the stats can be misleading when looked at from a 50k ft. view.
Didn't get your wish eh?Locked before midnight.
Huh?
Natural resource management is people and labor intensive--not analogous to industry or business where machines, AI, etc. can replace people at all.
Just heard they are targeting thousands of layoffs at the IRS next. That agency has been woefully understaffed for years. An effort to increase staff to go after tax cheats --where the recoveries would have more than paid for the cost of the new staff, many times over--has been killed by republicans a number of times lately.
Might be a good year to get your tax return done--yesterday--if you have any money coming back who knows when it will be processed now!
When did Americans turn into such assholes? I don’t recognize what we’ve become anymore.
Although technically it's the agency letting them go, this came from an executive order. It's happening across all departments and agencies of the govt, with exceptions for border security, military and public safety. I don't think I'd hold the newly minted ag secretary responsible for the firings at USDAAbsolutely terrible. My wife is a probationary employee at the VA. Just a waiting game right now, hopefully she'll get an exemption for being health care. Who knows.
I hope some of these people get their payback as a contractor and write their own checks at the expense of the agency who let them go.
These were untargeted terminations. They have noting to do with whether the person was productive or not, just the pure fact that they were recently hired (typically <1yr) and in a probationary period. Easier to terminate without legal recourse for the employee.FWIW google tells me there are 35k forest service employees nationwide, so though 3400 is a significant number, it is in reality less than 10%. I will say right now, if the least productive 10% of employees that work at my organization were let go, no less work would get done, in fact, maybe more work would get done. Just saying.
Forty years of vilifying public service, fair taxation, regulation, oversight, and consumer protection while pushing whatever new culture war suits a purpose. Attacks on educators and the value of education. And very few people push back.
Full sendFor those of you that voted for Trump....well...now you see what you caused...
I love the theatrics of such statements.For those of you that voted for Trump....well...now you see what you caused...
massive truth bomb and IMO the real problem. I've been saying this since 2015. The old saying "democrats fall in love, republicans fall in line" comes to mind far too often.I love the theatrics of such statements.
I agree and more so with those of us in the middle wondering How TF the Democrat leadership provided a platform and personality that actually LOST to such a person that America already experienced!?!?!
The fact that you waited around to post at midnightDidn't get your wish eh?
Redund?Might be a good year to get your tax return done--yesterday--if you have any money coming back who knows when it will be processed now!
That is what I said in my post and the vast majority of private companies
Don’t think I did not catch how you went from talking companies greater than $100mm to now 8 figures $10mm. I was not referring to small businesses and neither were you until your story did not fit.I know of plenty of private companies with 8 figure revenue and 7 to 8 figure debt or LOCs and they are not required to get financial statement audits. They also don't have non-owners on boards and owners typically have free rein over their comp. And even if they have a financial statement audit is much different and there is no transparency with outsiders or employees.
Is this how people in ohio do calorie math?How many acres of land did we have back then vs now. Is it more efficient to outsource some of the efforts, range management, fire management, trail maintenance, ect to 3rd party contractors? There’s many ways to redistribute labor and funds to accomplish the same amount of work Idk, it’s an interesting stat but I’d image per capita workers/public land fluctuates based on the number of projects each year.
My mind also goes to the Industrial Revolution efficiency/innovation. and what it did to farmers/farmable acres. I’m not discrediting your comment just interested to discuss some of the detailed insights people might have. Same goes for a lot of manufacturing getting displaced with automation and more skilled roles or higher paying jobs. Drone surveying vs manual, ect., ect.