Land management agency impact stories...

No telling how bad it is here, smoke signals going,huddled conversations.

BLM leases held up.
Empty FS employee parking lot.

Did G&F get the state lands leased for hunting?

Just about every one here will be impacted. Ranchers,FS folks,BLM folks, outfitters, cafes...............
 
I'm sure that's the plan (From the agencies) is to make sure it is felt as far and wide as possible. Just like the government "shutdowns" of the past. First thing...close national parks :) Make the people feel it to put pressure to feed the pig.
That BS tactic won't work this time around.
Yes, it sucks that people lost their jobs. A few week notice would have been nice so the people could line up new jobs.

The interesting piece is how many people think all jobs were warranted without having any clue what they're doing.

There's a prime example. The spending was out of control. Hiring more people instead of getting the ones they have to actually work.

@dranrab how many inspections were you averaging a week? What should the numbers have looked like?

I know plenty of state & federal workers who literally don't do anything, and they brag about how little they have to do.

Cleaning up was a necessity, that could have been handled better, but at the same time, hasn't been handled yet. It's happening now.
Hey guys, you now have your own thread that has nothing to do with hunting. It's right here - https://www.hunttalk.com/threads/relax-everything-is-going-to-be-okay.328164/#post-3897918

This thread has been reported by the usual suspects and the thread at that link above has been reported. I'm gonna let them both ride for now. All of you who want to discuss the general politics of the day, go to that thread link above and keep your comments off that thread. And any politics posts trying to derail this thread will be deleted.
 
@rjthehunter

One more time for you, the probationary employees from land management agencies that were fired were the field going folks. These are mostly gs4 and gs5s that work 6 to 9 months of the year. There's a few gs7s in there too. The vast majority of these people are public facing employees who can clearly articulate their role. The gs11s and 13s sitting at a desk were unaffected.

One of the biggest frustrations with these cuts is that everyone within the agencies recognizes there's room to improve and positions to reconsider and ways to improve efficiency, but that's not how it was rolled out.
 
@rjthehunter

One more time for you, the probationary employees from land management agencies that were fired were the field going folks. These are mostly gs4 and gs5s that work 6 to 9 months of the year. There's a few gs7s in there too. The vast majority of these people are public facing employees who can clearly articulate their role. The gs11s and 13s sitting at a desk were unaffected.

One of the biggest frustrations with these cuts is that everyone within the agencies recognizes there's room to improve and positions to reconsider and ways to improve efficiency, but that's not how it was rolled out.
I am somewhat loathe to discuss this, but it's a comment that certainly invites thoughtful conversation. It could be that some of those folks will have to get away from the desk and get back into the field. If everyone recognized that there was room for improvement, positions to reconsider and ways to improve efficiency, why weren't they doing it? It sounds to me like we are finding a place to lay some of the blame.
 
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