do we start worying about trump for president?

[Nemont]

Long time lurker, first time poster. I really enjoy the site but after reading through this thread I couldn't believe the number of folks trying to justify voting for Shillary and/or not voting and/or voting 3rd party. What is wrong with you people? How isolated from reality are you guys? It's obvious to most that this election is beyond typical partisan politics. This is THE most critical Presidential election in anyone's lifetime on this forum. We either begin restoring the country or become a conquered nation controlled by foreign anti-American interests hellbent on ending America and transforming it into a European-style, feminized, inflated, socialist, degenerate, multicultural hellhole. Don't resign yourselves to defeat! STAND UP AND BE AN AMERICAN

So because Trump sucks less then Hillary that means our ONLY choice is to still vote for someone who sucks? I am sorry but I decided that I was done voting for the lesser of two evils a while ago. I am a stand up American Man, been to combat and back, Politically conservative and I am comfortable in my conservative bona fides. I won't vote for Trump or Hillary.

Trump is obviously not perfect but look at the circumstances. The establishment GOP presented NO viable options. This has actually been their strategy for decades now as active enablers of this country's downfall. Someone had to step up. Trump saw an opportunity and acted. HE ACTED. We need more American men like this or you will not recognize your country by the time your children are adults. You need to get past his personality & style and think about how our nation will best survive. Maybe he says politically incorrect things or "mean" things. Who really cares? How soft have we become? He's pro-American trying his best to save the country. Stop listening to the corrupted, drive-by mainstream media attacking his character & sound bites and think about the real issues for yourself!

I understand your desire for change, hell I want change. How exactly you believe Trump is tough is beyond me. It doesn't take the media to damage his brand, just do a cursory review of the projects he has been involved with. He has failed at them far more often then not and left others holding the bag while he didn't worry about the aftermath one bit.

What exactly is he "trying to save" the country from?

I understand the Public Lands issue that is near & dear to us all. Note that this issue is at the bottom of Trump's campaign. Probably #49 out of #50 main issues. MT Rep. Congressman Ryan Zinke even pulled out of the GOP convention due to his support of MT public lands as a Republican. Trump will get this right eventually, but it's not an issue most folks from the eastern seaboard understand well. The main point is - WAKE UP. Our country & American way of life are under assault. The urgency and tone of Trump's campaign is righteous and is the healthy response to what has happened to our nation. All you folks that have your little utopias set up in western MT or ID or wherever may not be witnessing the disastrous effects of the Democratic & establishment GOP policies since the 60s (e.g. uncontrolled, unlawful 3rd world immigration to destabilize the nation ... Foreign wars that only benefit other nations ... Exporting US manufacturing to China/Mexico .... Politicians selling out to foreign interests, etc.), but this is a major reality in the bulk of our country now.

If nothing else, consider the long-term future of our country and the future for your children.

Who exactly assaulting the American way of life and what exactly are they doing? We face more direct and looming problems from the aging of Baby boomers and the demands they are going to place on the health care system, financial system and Federal budget. Trump doesn't intend to do anything except add Trillions to the debt and hundreds of billions to our annual deficit. Go read his tax and budget plans.

I get the outright disgust for Clinton most Americans should have indicted her at lease in their own minds and I believe she isn't healthy enough to serve but that doesn't mean Trump gets my vote by default because his is a floppy haired cartoon character IMO.

 

[James Riley]

I get outright disgust for Clinton and I believe she isn't healthy enough to serve . . ..

Just curious, is there a physical illness she has? Or are you talking about her mental state? I haven't heard anyone in the press talking about this but I thought I read an oblique reference to it somewhere.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Born down in a dead man's town
The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
You end up like a dog that's been beat too much
Till you spend half your life just covering up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZD4ezDbbu4

 

[LuketheDog]

What's that saying, "A picture is worth a 1000 words"?

The shirts made overseas is such a red herring. Have you seen the list of vehicles that are made in Mexico now? Sure hope one you own isn't on there. Under Obama vehicle production there has drastically increased, Hillary won't change that. With people (Dems) rioting for huge minimum wage increases, manufacturing will not move to the US.

The Cadillac Escalade EXT and SRX, Chevrolet Avalanche, Chevrolet Aveo, Chevrolet HHR, Chevrolet Silverado and Silverado Hybrid, Dodge Journey, Dodge Ram 2500, Dodge Ram 3500, Dodge Ram 4500, Dodge Ram 5500, Ford Fiesta, Ford Fusion and Fusion Hybrid, GMC Sierra and Sierra Hybrid, GMC Sierra Crew Cab, Honda CR-V, Lincoln MKZ and MKZ Hybrid, Nissan Sentra, Nissan Versa, Volkswagen Jetta and Volkswagen Jetta SportWagen are all assembled in Mexico. Toyota Tacomas are assembled in both Mexico and the United States.
Engines made in Mexico include those used in the Chrysler Jeep Grand Cherokee, Dodge Ram 1500, Ford Escape and Escape Hybrid, GM Buick Lucerne and Cadillac CTS line, Cadillac Escalade Hybrid, Chevrolet Cruze and Malibu, Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon Hybrid and Mazda Tribute Hybrid.
Transmissions made in Mexico include those used in the Dodge Calibur, Chrysler Jeep Compass and Patriot, Ford Shelby GT500, Nissan Altima and Maxima, and a wide range of GM vehicles.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Out on the road for forty days
Last night in Little Rock put me in a haze
Sweet, sweet Connie, doin' her act
She had the whole show and that's a natural fact
Up all night with Freddie King
I got to tell you, poker's his thing
Booze and ladies, keep me right
As long as we can make it to the show tonight
We're an American band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc_JcGuH5Z8

 

[Washington Hunter]

Who exactly assaulting the American way of life and what exactly are they doing? We face more direct and looming problems from the aging of Baby boomers and the demands they are going to place on the health care system, financial system and Federal budget. Trump doesn't intend to do anything except add Trillions to the debt and hundreds of billions to our annual deficit. Go read his tax and budget plans.

Two words- illegal immigration.

Who will be more likely to put a stop to that or at least slow it down?

 

[Ben Lamb]

On the boats & on the planes
They comin' to 'Merica

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRTHdC7k4uY

 

[mdhunter]

I have been on here long enough to remember the political threads from the last election. Type away everyone...but I doubt you will convince anyone.

Do yourself a favor and just go vote.

 

[Ben Lamb]

I couldn't have one conversation
If it wasn't for the lies, lies, lies
And still I ought to tell you everything
'till I close my eyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVFcRfYZook

 

[Nemont]

Two words- illegal immigration.

Who will be more likely to put a stop to that or at least slow it down?

How does the President do this without the advise and consent of congress? Do you remember who stopped immigration reform when GWB attempted it? Look up the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007. He couldn't get enough Republicans to support him to even win a cloture vote in the Senate to allow debate on Immigration Reform. Nothing has changed since then.

Illegal immigration is just one challenge and one that has been happening since the country was founded. Trump doesn't have a viable plan that can pass muster in congress to deal with the issue. That is just a fact.

Good on you that you support Trump, isn't freedom wonderful? I have looked at him for a while and the more I look the less I am impressed with both his rhetoric and his actual record. He has rabbit ears and anyone can wage a twitter war but always discretion is the better part of valor and he has none. Also true statesmanship is having the ability to come up with snappy retort but holding your tongue because not responding is the right thing to do, is neither valorous or a statesman and we need the president to be both in these perilous times.

 

[katqanna]

Just curious, is there a physical illness she has? Or are you talking about her mental state? I haven't heard anyone in the press talking about this but I thought I read an oblique reference to it somewhere.

It is a Trump campaign tactic - Trump Adds Fuel To Conspiracy Theories Questioning Clinton's Health. She had a concussion sometime in 2012, was over it by 2013. They are showing images of her in chairs with pillows propping her up, when the guests interviewing her also have pillow behind them with no arrows pointing those out. Not saying she is not affected by it, have not read her physician's report release a while back, but this is what the reference is about.

 

[Ben Lamb]

A man decides after seventy years
That what he goes there for
Is to unlock the door

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fc67yQsPqQ

 

[James Riley]

. . . discretion is the better part of valor . . . Also true statesmanship is having the ability to come up with snappy retort but holding your tongue because not responding is the right thing to do, . . . we need the president to be both in these perilous times.

Would we even be able to see or hear such a person above the din? Surely there is one out there and yet we apparently can't see or hear them; or they are utilizing that discretion and hiding.

My point is, the establishment has created (and we have allowed) this clown show. If anyone has a track out of it, let's hear it. Discretion and tongue-holding apparently doesn't work.

 

[James Riley]

It is a Trump campaign tactic - Trump Adds Fuel To Conspiracy Theories Questioning Clinton's Health. She had a concussion sometime in 2012, was over it by 2013. They are showing images of her in chairs with pillows propping her up, when the guests interviewing her also have pillow behind them with no arrows pointing those out. Not saying she is not affected by it, have not read her physician's report release a while back, but this is what the reference is about.

Thanks.

 

[Washington Hunter]

I don't care how he does it or if he even succeeds in slowing down illegal immigration. At the very least he could start by demanding that our current immigration laws be enforced. They're now being ignored at Obama's request. The fact is Trump wants to stop illegal immigration and Hillary does not. The illegals who are here, she would like to grant them citizenship. So I'm voting for the candidate who I agree with, whether he can accomplish all that he wants to accomplish, I don't know. But I'm sure not going to vote for someone like Hillary who supports illegal immigration and is anti gun and anti hunting.

 

[Southwind]

'Tis the season for gymnastics, either in Rio or mental.

At least the uranium Hillary sent to Russia says Made in America on it and more than likely we will get it back

 

[Ben Lamb]

Tell me lies
Tell me sweet little lies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcjpags7JT8

 

[Southwind]

Donald Trump is a hard working, patriotic American, and so are all his kids. I'd say he did something right.

And Chelsea, she'll never have to work the rest of her life, as she's supported by her corrupt parents and their scam the "Clinton Foundation."

All you have to do is research who Chelsea's father in law is and the picture continues to open up.

 

[Nemont]

I don't care how he does it or if he even succeeds in slowing down illegal immigration. At the very least he could start by demanding that our current immigration laws be enforced. They're now being ignored at Obama's request. The fact is Trump wants to stop illegal immigration and Hillary does not. The illegals who are here, she would like to grant them citizenship. So I'm voting for the candidate who I agree with, whether he can accomplish all that he wants to accomplish, I don't know. But I'm sure not going to vote for someone like Hillary who supports illegal immigration and is anti gun and anti hunting.

Well like I said, freedom is a wonderful thing and to live in a country that allows political discourse is something to be treasured and reinforced. I choose to exercise my freedom to not vote for either. I don't believe either is qualified, capable or competent enough to lead our country where it should be headed. Your mileage may vary.

Nemont

 

[Nemont]

It is a Trump campaign tactic - Trump Adds Fuel To Conspiracy Theories Questioning Clinton's Health. She had a concussion sometime in 2012, was over it by 2013. They are showing images of her in chairs with pillows propping her up, when the guests interviewing her also have pillow behind them with no arrows pointing those out. Not saying she is not affected by it, have not read her physician's report release a while back, but this is what the reference is about.

There is far more to it.
https://youtu.be/QzCQg94oOmk

It happens to her so regularly that one should question if Tim Kaine is a capable fill in.

Nemont