COVID-19 Links, facts and discussion. Politics and hyperbole welcome.

[LWC55]

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I know these numbers are very early but here are a couple of numbers that have stuck out to me today.

New Jersey has 890 confirmed cases and 11 deaths to date. 4 from the same family. That is very strange (and sad) to me.

Also NY which is being called the US epicenter for Corona has 8,516 confirmed cases and 53 deaths to date. Still early but that is .62% mortality rate with a small percentage of folks having been tested. It is still very early, but I think that has to be considered good news.

 

[Sytes]

Get your Retirement accounts ready for the next shock wave to hit our stock market... The projections for unemployment as restaurants, hotels, limited gatherings, etc lay offs commence - trickle to retail purchase power, etc. Going to get ugly-ier.

A new study by a Ball State University economist projects Indiana's 3.1% unemployment rate could soar to 10% over the next six weeks, and approach 15% by mid-June, due to government imposed "social distancing" measures aimed at preventing the spread of coronavirus.

Possible 15% unemployment in Indiana from COVID-19

A Ball State University economist projects Indiana's 3.1% unemployment rate could soar to 10% over the next six weeks, and approach 15% by mid-June.

kokomoperspective.com

 

[ImBillT]

We need to be trying to figure out why Germany’s death rate is .3%...not that far from the flu.

Early estimates suggested we could need as many as 1200 ICU beds/100,000 people, but according to Worldometer, Italy’s critical patients account for 4.425/100,000. While that might overwhelm Italy’s already stretched thin medical system, with under 13 ICU beds/100,000 would it overwhelm our 34/100,000?

 

[ImBillT]

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I know these numbers are very early but here are a couple of numbers that have stuck out to me today.

New Jersey has 890 confirmed cases and 11 deaths to date. 4 from the same family. That is very strange (and sad) to me.

Also NY which is being called the US epicenter for Corona has 8,516 confirmed cases and 53 deaths to date. Still early but that is .62% mortality rate with a small percentage of folks having been tested. It is still very early, but I think that has to be considered good news.

Four deaths in the same family is just an anecdote until we know how many times this has happened in the past.

NY is definitely good news. Considering who is being tested, especially the early tests, the rate is likely to drop.

 

[VikingsGuy]

So what do you think

It is our best shot at early return to "normal", but I am still not aware of a single proper peer reviewed double blind study with sufficient numbers to provide statistical power. I am rooting for it. Absent this, we are looking at much more than 3 months of the current mess. At the same time, 90+% of early indications of drug efficacy are disproved after careful study. Finger's crossed.

 

[rjthehunter]

What you need to know about hydroxychloroquine, Trump’s new favorite treatment for Covid-19

Trump wants to use the anti-malaria drug to treat the new coronavirus, but the evidence is lacking.

www.google.com

Small study done in France but 100% success rate so far combining hydroxychloroquine and Zithromax. FDA is in the process of reviewing it, but hopefully is effective in combating covid 19!

 

[406dn]

Coronavirus Dashboard

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I know these numbers are very early but here are a couple of numbers that have stuck out to me today.

New Jersey has 890 confirmed cases and 11 deaths to date. 4 from the same family. That is very strange (and sad) to me.

Also NY which is being called the US epicenter for Corona has 8,516 confirmed cases and 53 deaths to date. Still early but that is .62% mortality rate with a small percentage of folks having been tested. It is still very early, but I think that has to be considered good news.

The deaths are going to lag the confirmed cases. People who are dying today, caught the disease maybe three weeks ago. So look back at the confirmed cases from three weeks ago. It is still a giant crap shoot because the testing has been no where near adequate.

 

[Washington Hunter]

 

[ImBillT]

The deaths are going to lag the confirmed cases. People who are dying today, caught the disease maybe three weeks ago. So look back at the confirmed cases from three weeks ago. It is still a giant crap shoot because the testing has been no where near adequate.

Not everyone goes up to 14 days before the onset of symptoms.

Look at the Diamond Princess cruise ship. 3711, people on board, 712 eventually tested positive, 410 never showed symptoms, 8 died. 1.1% death rate, that’s about 10X the flu, but the Diamond Princess had a very high elderly population, and the common cold has about an 8% death rate among the elderly. The common cold has a much higher death rate among the elderly than the flu. The flu has much higher death rate among the young and healthy than the common cold.

I agree that our early numbers in NY are not showing the death rate of the people tested today, which is why we should be looking at Europe and the cruise ship.

 

[406dn]

I'd have to see solid support for the common cold having an 8% mortality rate among the elderly. I suspect you have the decimal in the wrong place.

Also my three week guess included a speculation on the symptoms showing, the person needing to go the hospital, and then the person dying from the disease.

 

[ImBillT]

“Pooled estimates of all-cause mortality from 24 countries or regions reporting to the EuroMOMO project showed normal expected levels of mortality.”

From a report on week 11 of 2020.

Flu News Europe | Severity

 

[Trial153]

The is an inditement on the administration and congress considering the time line of when these transactions took place. Considering how long it took after to both acknowledge the severity of the situation and prepare adequately

Tucker Carlson: Burr had coronavirus info that might have helped people. He hid it and helped only himself





https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-burr-coronavirus-info





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[Doublecluck]

The deaths are going to lag the confirmed cases. People who are dying today, caught the disease maybe three weeks ago. So look back at the confirmed cases from three weeks ago. It is still a giant crap shoot because the testing has been no where near adequate.

Maybe, but we are at 22,000 confirmed cases with 279 deaths, when Italy was at 22,000 confirmed cases they were at 1400 deaths, that trend has continued. They have tested 1000 per million and we have tested 26 per million. Unless deaths are being missed in this country I can’t see how the death rate will be above 1%. If we had tested more people right now than presumably there would be more confirmed cases but the same amount of deaths, which would make the death rate lower.

it’s entirely possible we are dealing with a death rate of less than 1% but still need to do the same things because of how transmissible the virus is.

 

[Nameless Range]

Posting this not because I agree with it, but because it is a fine example of picking statistics to formulate an argument.

Evidence over hysteria — COVID-19

Read the full story and don’t panic.

medium.com

My state representative , who is also my neighbor, has been on a tear about tyranny and how this is all a liberal witch hunt. When confronted with stats to the contrary, he responded to me that the same folks who believe this data are the same folks who believe in global warming and the existence of transgender people, so therefore it must be false.

 

[JLS]

South Korea's coronavirus lessons: Quick, easy tests; monitoring

It's amazing how embracing science works.

 

[ShootsManyBullets]

Origins of the Coronavirus

 

[JLS]

So what do you think

No idea.

 

[Oak]

A Medical Worker Describes Terrifying Lung Failure From COVID-19 — Even in His Young Patients

“It first struck me how different it was when I saw my first coronavirus patient go bad. I was like, Holy shit, this is not the flu. Watching this relatively young guy, gasping for air, pink frothy secretions coming out of his tube.”

www.propublica.org

 

[Doublecluck]

Origins of the Coronavirus

I have a uncle who is a physicist,history professor, etc, guy has over 50,000 books in his house, every wall of every room, every addition of time magazine etc. aka really smart dude and not the tin foil hat type. Apolitical independent, anyhow the other day he was telling me about a conversation he was having with a microbiologist and how those two Chinese’s scientists and how they were working specifically on genetically engineering the last Sars virus in the United States up until 2016. They went to Wuhan in 2016 and presumably continued the same type of work, the catch, in Wuhan when they are done experimenting on the animals in many cases they take them to the live animal market to be sold as food. I couldn’t believe it so I tried to verify through the net but couldn’t find anything. Now I’m not embracing any conspiracy theories but that’s a lot of coincidence.

 

[ImBillT]

I'd have to see solid support for the common cold having an 8% mortality rate among the elderly. I suspect you have the decimal in the wrong place.

Also my three week guess included a speculation on the symptoms showing, the person needing to go the hospital, and then the person dying from the disease.

I came across 8% somewhere, and didn’t make it up, but now I can’t seem to find any info on the death rate from colds in the elderly or anyone. Feel free to disregard it until I find a source.

I guess I’m a white belt at Googlefu.