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COVID-19 Links, facts and discussion. Politics and hyperbole welcome.

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Please take this for what it is and how it is intended.

PPE:

Pretend Protective Equipment.
Peoples Protective Equipment.

Seeing folks at home who can sew show up the mightiest power in the world is both smile making and sobering.
 
For life of me I can’t figure out the mask shortage. I’m looking at one right now, 07A26C48-DDDC-40DD-B963-7B44AB1F4D15.jpeg

We’re talking about a piece of cloth, two rubber bands and 4 staples, if I had the parts I could assemble a couple thousand by hand in a day. Rubber bands, cloth, staples? These aren’t exactly exotic materials. I just wonder if the government is hindering the process because it seems like there should be an abundance of at idle American companies able to achieve producing tens/hundreds of millions of these in a relatively short order.
 
Trial153 said:
She is mentioned in there as well. You might have missed it.
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I didn't miss it(I quoted it from your article) but thought it only fair to mention both sides were accused of insider trading in the article you posted. Since we aren't being political.
 
LWC55 said:
I didn't miss it(I quoted it from your article) but thought it only fair to mention both sides were accused of insider trading in the article you posted. Since we aren't being political.
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I never said otherwise. I think both parties are compromised of greedly selfserving basards

Also you might have missed in my original post, that had the link i said it was an Indictment of both the administration and the Congress. Last i check there were two parties in congress. If you trying to backhandedly say i being partisan...
 
Quackillr said:
For life of me I can’t figure out the mask shortage. I’m looking at one right now, View attachment 131917

We’re talking about a piece of cloth, two rubber bands and 4 staples, if I had the parts I could assemble a couple thousand by hand in a day. Rubber bands, cloth, staples? These aren’t exactly exotic materials. I just wonder if the government is hindering the process because it seems like there should be an abundance of at idle American companies able to achieve producing tens/hundreds of millions of these in a relatively short order.
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Making a thousand is simple, making a hundred thousand involves equipment and a supply chain.

One positive out of all this is folks may start understanding more about how modern high volume manufacturing works. I would say that in January 2020 the world's production capabilities had never been greater, but that the fragility of this system had also never been greater. Just-in-time inventories are remarkable on the efficiency side, but a killer with any disruption in upstream supply/delivery. Maybe bailed out industries shouldl be made to hold adequate cash reserves to pay the employees for 3-6 months and to have adequate parts inventory to run for some reasonable period of time after a natural crisis. I prefer to minimize regulation where we can, but we may find we have taken fiscal efficiency beyond its helpful ends.
 
The shortage of the many things those who are on the front lines need must be a misunderstanding, a supply chain issue, fake news, hyperbole, or stuck in a warehouse somewhere.
The C in C just stated "... I didn't act late, I acted early".
Fact.
No discussion of the statement itself.
We can leave that up to the individual and his/her cerebrum.
 
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onpoint said:
The shortage of the many things those who are on the front lines need must be a misunderstanding, a supply chain issue, fake news, hyperbole, or stuck in a warehouse somewhere.
The C in C just stated that the "... I didn't act late, I acted early".
Fact.
No discussion of the statement itself.
We can leave that up to the individual and his/her cerebrum.
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Are you intent to force politics into this thread? Why don't you start a different thread for folks who want to go there. I am a never-Trumper so not defend a particular pol, just preferring that we keep this one little thread clear of political finger pointing for those that want information not politics.
 
Vikings Guy.
The thread title contains the word facts. If someone as intelligent as you can't understand that the highest levels of our Gov't are "the lead", and that their actions mean more than a little here....
I get shit canned off this thread, don't mean much to me.
Ain't here for the likes............
 
onpoint said:
The shortage of the many things those who are on the front lines need must be a misunderstanding, a supply chain issue, fake news, hyperbole, or stuck in a warehouse somewhere.
The C in C just stated that the "... I didn't act late, I acted early".
Fact.
No discussion of the statement itself.
We can leave that up to the individual and his/her cerebrum.
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Shutting down travel to and from China ten days after the first case hit our shores, while being called a xenophobic racist was acting fast. The day after the first case hit our shores he was still being impeached.
 
VikingsGuy said:
Making a thousand is simple, making a hundred thousand involves equipment and a supply chain.

One positive out of all this is folks may start understanding more about how modern high volume manufacturing works. I would say that in January 2020 the world's production capabilities had never been greater, but that the fragility of this system had also never been greater. Just-in-time inventories are remarkable on the efficiency side, but a killer with any disruption in upstream supply/delivery. Maybe bailed out industries shouldl be made to hold adequate cash reserves to pay the employees for 3-6 months and to have adequate parts inventory to run for some reasonable period of time after a natural crisis. I prefer to minimize regulation where we can, but we may find we have taken fiscal efficiency beyond its helpful ends.
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Sure, the majority of these companies are using lean, we just pulled the last widget from the bin at the end of the line, the question is, are the people in the supply chain waiting for their next widget to process their part and increase production, or is the owner of company x still negotiating with a government agency x on which company x is going to make said widget and is government agency x going to approve said widget. Sadly at the end of the day it likely revolves around money and politics, if we just went to the guys standing On the widget line and told them we need to make x number of widgets, They can make them. Just give the system and people the parts and get out of the way. The American workers can meet the order, American bureaucrats and executives are hindering the process, pure speculation, but I would bet on it.

To Be clear, I utilized lean,tps,5s etc Making one of custom orders and could increase or decrease production by over 1000% in less than a week so as long as raw materials were obtainable, that’s on a small scale, push production not pull with materials far harder to obtain than those for masks, gowns, etc.. these literally are widgets we’re talking about, every part is the same, this is what lean is most efficient at producing, just give the people the parts, that’s it.
 
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Just a question to those posting and/or following this thread:
What's your motive and/or objective to stay with it?
Mine? To hopefully get one other person to take action, which in turn might get one more... Kind of a counter to the activity of the pathogen, which operates the in same way.
I doubt this will lead to any dilution of the OP, as few enough replies will ensue, and internet span of attention, memory, and the gravity of the original topic itself will leave this post and it's replies behind soon enough.
I posed this question to VG, via PM already.
No bullshit here. Honest question.
 
Quackillr said:
Sure, the majority of these companies are using lean, we just pulled the last widget from the bin at the end of the line, the question is, are the people in the supply chain waiting for their next widget to process their part and increase production, or is the owner of company x still negotiating with a government agency x on which company x is going to make said widget and is government agency x going to approve said widget. Sadly at the end of the day it likely revolves around money and politics, if we just went to the guys standing On the widget line and told them we need to make x number of widgets, They can make them. Just give the system and people the parts and get out of the way. The American workers can meet the order, American bureaucrats and executives are hindering the process, pure speculation, but I would bet on it.

To Be clear, I utilized lean,tps,5s etc Making one of custom orders and could increase or decrease production by over 1000% in less than a week so as long as raw materials were obtainable, that’s on a small scale, push production not pull with materials far harder to obtain than those for masks, gowns, etc.. these literally are widgets we’re talking about, every part is the same, this is what lean is most efficient at producing, just give the people the parts, that’s it.
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Didn't we get LEAN production from the Chinese as well. Can someone please remind me what the Chinese are good for.
 
LWC55 said:
Anecdotal stuff like this will scare the crap out of lots of folks with allergies, which I have. It is allergy season after all. First tickle in my throat...is that you rona?
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My life right now as well. I feel like Melman from Madagascar, grabbing the thermometer to check.
 
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