Badger_55
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Than there will be complaints of overcrowded general units.I think you're spot on. 8 points for a general tag....
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Than there will be complaints of overcrowded general units.I think you're spot on. 8 points for a general tag....
Definitely looks like you “need more opportunity”..........Wait for the photo after mid July...this one will be child's play in comparison.
Yep, short by about 20 tags worth of opportunity...and I don't bluff.Definitely looks like you “need more opportunity”..........
Pretty much. As long as they continue to push bills that bends over hunters.This thread is the new standard by which all rapid-fire bitch sessions will be judged
Cold... im sure if it was only that simple. I know I would of been in Montana already.Move to WY
You want to pay my vehicle registrations and property taxes since its so insignificant then? Sounds like you either rent or live in a low tax county.I've made a few comments so far and I emailed my local state senator about my take on the proposed bill. So my take is all this will do is screw non-residents who pay for most of the wildlife conservation in Wyoming. We have amazing opportunity as Wyoming residents we can just go to Walmart and just buy our general deer and elk tags and on our deer tags we don't have to pick a region. We can draw antelope tags reliably every year depending on our unit of choice and MSG & Bison are still long shots like every state. At most our opportunity will increase marginally. As for funding there are other ways than raising our NR fees to ridiculously high rates. For that NR elk tag you can get the Montana Deer, Elk combo tag and get longer seasons and a rut rifle season for seer. Antelope will be way more expensive than everywhere else at 600 or 650. If I were a NR I'd look hard at Montana then. Also the whole we pay taxes here so we pay a lot we don't see doesn't really fly in Wyoming we don't have a state income tax, our property taxes are really low and our sales tax is pretty low so we don't pay much in taxes at all. So to sum it up with all the opportunity and perks I get as a resident, can just buy my tag to hunt region G tag every year and I can bounce around the state until I'm successful. So if I'm only allotted 80% of LE tags that seems like a fair trade to me. As for additional money for game and fish why do we just assume throwing more money at wildlife management is the only way it works, shouldn't they be mandated to adjust to new normals I know the tax layers of Wyoming did that last year.
Break out the total number of additional Resident hunters that would get to hunt those units as well...if you don't mind.I'm a deer hunter at heart so I crunched some numbers for some of the top deer units in Wyoming with a 90/10 split. I took the available tag numbers for 2021 off of the proposed tag numbers on the Wyoming Fish and Game website. I used the amount of residents applying for each unit from the 2020 applications
With a 90/10 split here are the odds and how they change for the resident:
Unit 87 goes from 4.6% to 7%
Unit 89 goes from 12% to 18%
Unit 90 goes from 5.9% to 8%
Unit 101 goes from 1.8 to 2%
Unit 102 goes from 3.9% to 5%
Unit 128 goes from 1.9% to 2.1%
Unit 130 goes from 1.9% to 2.1%
Working on crunching the NR numbers, but I will tell you already, it won't be good. For example, Unit 130 goes to 1 NR tag. In looking at the numbers, the windfall for the residents will be nominal statistically for a better chance of drawing. I am just stating numbers, and not saying that WY can't do what they want.
Rich
Sounds like everyone could shell out a little more then. What is a resident license? 26 bucks??Good point, everyone wants to pay the GF 1978 wages to manage wildlife, and everybody wants to pay 1978 license fees to hunt as a NR too.
Vehicles registration is the only thing thats high in Wyoming and our property taxes are really low. The property taxes on my house are less than the quarterly payments on my relatives house back east and they have a state income tax and a high sales tax. Also I have a nice house on a decent sized lot. We also have some of thr lowest electricity rates in the nation. We have it really well as residents from a tax perspective. If your vehicle registration is too find a friend with property in another state and register your vehicles there like any Wyoming resident that can.You want to pay my vehicle registrations and property taxes since its so insignificant then?
I'll be happy to send them your way....
You want to pay my vehicle registrations and property taxes since its so insignificant then? Sounds like you either rent or live in a low tax county.
I'll be happy to send them your way....
Clearly meant the limited quota tags that will be cut in half for the NR. It's going to be a circus for those general tags.What tags got cut(speaking strictly elk)? Allocation is still at 7250 full price as i read bill just going to be more people getting generals, dont like it or think its to pricey dont apply...more non res will have bull tags next year than this year i believe
I don't know what a Resident deer tag is in Montana these days...was $16 when I was paying 4x resident fees under the ridiculous Montana Native fee's because I recall paying $64. That was 4-5 years or more ago.Sounds like everyone could shell out a little more then. What is a resident license? 26 bucks??
Very clear.Will it really?
Going from 80/20 to 90/10 means you're adjusting the price of some tags to Special (25% of the 20% NR tags are already Special) for 10% of the tags sold at the NR Special prices. The other 10% goes from Regular NR prices to very low Resident prices. I really don't think this is about money. This will also cut in half the amount of tags issued to NR and cut the amount of NR $ spent in local economie.
Sure, Residents can decide what they want in terms of opportunities but I really don't believe this will help G&F or local economies.
If this was about money, they would raise all NR tags prices to Special pricing and implement a mandatory hunting license to purchase points like most states do.