Wyoming Corner Crossing Bill

[elkduds]

Which is a great illustration of how politics work in America, as those landowners who will lose value are a tiny minority.

Public landowners have so far been forced to surrender their value in public lands blocked by private. That was the illegal taking, waiting to be corrected.

 

[BuzzH]

Corner crossing would significantly reduce the value of many properties. This makes simple debate on topic unpalatable to any politician. Many we can find an alternative solution?

I could care less if they lose value, they didn't buy the public lands, they don't pay taxes on it, and their grievance is not with the public or 4 hunters from Missouri that used public land that some d-bag "thought" he owned.

I also don't believe for one split second that property values will decline...I heard that same shit when stream access passed in Montana. Same garbage spewed by landowners and real estate agents and guess what, land value's on streams/rivers in Montana didn't drop a bit.

Go find me some reduced priced land on the Yellowstone, Bitterroot, Clark Fork, Blackfoot, Clearwater, Gallatin, Jefferson, Madison...I'm in the market but want to pay about $400 and acre. You know, since stream access killed the value.

 

[SAJ-99]

I could care less if they lose value, they didn't buy the public lands, they don't pay taxes on it, and their grievance is not with the public or 4 hunters from Missouri that used public land that some d-bag "thought" he owned.

I also don't believe for one split second that property values will decline...I heard that same shit when stream access passed in Montana. Same garbage spewed by landowners and real estate agents and guess what, land value's on streams/rivers in Montana didn't drop a bit.

Go find me some reduced priced land on the Yellowstone, Bitterroot, Clark Fork, Blackfoot, Clearwater, Gallatin, Jefferson, Madison...I'm in the market but want to pay about $400 and acre. You know, since stream access killed the value.

I should have been more clear. I can't say for sure if values will decline, but politicians will certainly hear that from a lot of voices with a financial interest. That is why they sidestep the debate. Easiest to just not bring it to the table.
You thought there were major problems with it as it was constructed. What were they?

 

[Bob-WY]

IMO less than 1/2 hunters will use the corner. They can't drive over it

 

[Mountain Man]

IMO less than 1/2 hunters will use the corner. They can't drive over it

I think you are overestimating. Probably less than 1/4.

 

[Irrelevant]

Related: https://wyofile.com/bill-would-allow-physical-force-to-terminate-suspected-trespass/

 

[Addicting]

Related: https://wyofile.com/bill-would-allow-physical-force-to-terminate-suspected-trespass/

Sweet baby Jesus that won’t cause conflict or violation of civil rights.

 

[mountainlaurel3]

Related: https://wyofile.com/bill-would-allow-physical-force-to-terminate-suspected-trespass/

Wow. Bigfin did warn that state legislatures would respond to the push for access to our public lands, and not in a good way...

 

[lenny4077]

I really hope this has 0 chance of passing... but who knows anymore...

 

[BuzzH]

I really hope this has 0 chance of passing... but who knows anymore...

We're on this, @JM77 made the first giant step, we have an action plan in place and will post it at the appropriate time.

This is horrible legislation and is going to get people hurt, killed, and may result in civil suits where people lose their assets.

We don't need to be deputizing landowners, we have a sheriff's department for a reason.

 

[TheJason]

I get the intent of what they're saying, but it lends itself (in my eyes) to people being able to go right across a 40 acre parcel of private to get more public because they're traveling from one parcel to another. It doesn't seem to give any sort of real restrictions as to what "touching" means.

that shares a common corner with or is immediately connected to the first parcel and that the person is authorized to access.”

How can you remotely suggest this language gives you license to cross a 40 acre parcel?

Shares a common corner
OR
Immediately connected

 

[Addicting]

Sweet baby Jesus that won’t cause conflict or violation of civil rights.

Wyoming newly deputized land owners….

 

[SAJ-99]

"Rep. Crago said the request for a law came from a single person in Buffalo who teaches self-defense and church-security classes. That person asked whether one could take action “if we think somebody is about to do something really bad.”

This self-defense and church-security instructor, who chose not to be named, also needs to add psychic to his job description.

 

[BuzzH]

Wyoming newly deputized land owners….


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Yeah, I'm going to go right out on the hairy, ragged edge, and say that Crago is a big fan of Yellowstone...

 

[Bowhuntrben]

How can you remotely suggest this language gives you license to cross a 40 acre parcel?

Shares a common corner
OR
Immediately connected

I'm not sure what I was looking at. I must've been half asleep when I read it or something. You are correct.

 

[Addicting]

This self-defense and church-security instructor,

 

[madtom]

Yeah, I'm going to go right out on the hairy, ragged edge, and say that Crago is a big fan of Yellowstone...

The bill verbiage should have included the term “train station.”

 

[Scott85]

Range wars in the 21st Century. What’s next, the rebirth of the Pinkertons and Stock Detectives riding property boundaries?

 

[TOGIE]

if that bill passed, i would be willing to bet there would be nearly equally as many landowners that end up in jail as there would be dead or injured "trespassers"

that's ones of the most bat shit crazy bills i've ever seen

 

[Dougfirtree]

Sweet baby Jesus that won’t cause conflict or violation of civil rights.

The bill is bonkers, but perhaps not as bonkers as this sentence: "The House advanced the bill on a 57-5 vote Thursday..."

I saw this today and couldn't help but think of corner crossing.