When is enough, enough?

[JoseCuervo]

. As far as passing on the heritage, do it on public ground or on your own ground but don't expect people to just throw the gates open for you and your offspring when they are making an income off of it to keep the lights on and food on the table. Dang NeMont, you claim to come from a huge ranch up there somewhere, you should know how often times the extra income helps in these not so great financial times in the ag industry.

Belly deep, the private landowners are not obligated to let anyone across their private to access public, nor should they be.
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BigShotter,

Don't expect anyone to give a rat's ass about YOUR heritage and protecting your lifestyle of overgrazing and destroying MY PUBLIC LANDS.

For some reason you want to be a welfare recipient and live off grazing public lands and selling tags/access to outfitters to kill the State's animals. Why don't you get off your lazy ass and go get a real job instead of hold your hand out to the Government?

I am thinking the term Welfare Rancher pretty much fits you and your bride.

 

[schmalts]

BigShotter,

Don't expect anyone to give a rat's ass about YOUR heritage and protecting your lifestyle of overgrazing and destroying MY PUBLIC LANDS.

For some reason you want to be a welfare recipient and live off grazing public lands and selling tags/access to outfitters to kill the State's animals. Why don't you get off your lazy ass and go get a real job instead of hold your hand out to the Government?

I am thinking the term Welfare Rancher pretty much fits you and your bride.

God damn, I better go shoot myself.... This loser posted something I agree with

 

[Nemont]

NeMont, no......no I think that I will post here for a while longer. Just because you don't agree with what I have to say does not mean that me or my bride should not post on here. Like I have stated before, the DIY hunter view is not the only one or necessarily the right one......nor is the landowners or outfitters. As far as passing on the heritage, do it on public ground or on your own ground but don't expect people to just throw the gates open for you and your offspring when they are making an income off of it to keep the lights on and food on the table. Dang NeMont, you claim to come from a huge ranch up there somewhere, you should know how often times the extra income helps in these not so great financial times in the ag industry.

Got news for you, it is not great economic times for anyone. Both me and my spouse grew up on ranches and both are large. Both allow public hunting but are not enrolled in block management. The price of admission is to ask and obey the rules. There are people who are not allowed to come back.

Please quote me saying that you need to "throw the gates open"? I said you give two shits about passing on a heritage in our state of hunting, that is just a fact. My kid has access to enough land to hunt that if he chooses he can hunt for a lifetime however, not all kids are so lucky. This leads to fewer hunters and less outdoor time and less connection to the land. What do you think will happen when those kids grow up? Are they are going to care about landowners when it comes to the ballot box? So don't pretend you are pro hunting, you are pro money. I have no problem with that just don't come on a hunting website and whine about hunters. We are all in some ways working for our own bottom line, I happen to think creating more hunters and working with landowners on not only income issues but also access issues is better for the long term health of both ranches and hunters, you view hunters only as opponents bent of taking away the money you make now on hunters. There is a different way but I doubt you have much interest in that.

I have stated over and over: DO AS YOU PLEASE WITH YOUR LAND, I don't care what you do, period. Just don't come here and whine. You have not answered a single question I asked you so I will ask again: Explain how locking your land up reduces the chance of somebody standing on the road shooting your cows?


If you think telling you to post on UPOM's site or any other landowner site is because I disagree with you are wrong.

So for the 80th time lock your gates, bash hunters and lease your land to outfitters that is all within the law, this thread is about not giving away more public resources to be privatized. Resident hunters are fully within their rights to raise objections to this and other give aways. Explain why a residents of state should support giving more outfitter sponsored tags. I can make the case for not doing it let us hear your case for doing it.

Nemont

 

[belly-deep]

Belly deep, the private landowners are not obligated to let anyone across their private to access public, nor should they be.

Why should they get to have grazing leases on public land then? I say if they don't let the public access public land, they shouldn't get to rape public property. That is a no-brainer. Ranchers have destroyed more public animal habitat by over grazing than they want to admit.

 

[Blue Yummies]

Hey nemont, so your "ranch" that you you've got. I am confused why you would let every tom, dick and harry come and hunt on your place? Instead of your own family. It sounds like your family ranch is taking money as well. I tell you what I would save the biggest damn buck for my kid.

By the way greenie just because you poached that little squeeker on a state section that you herded off of a private ranch than you should put rosebud county under that not garfield.

 

[1_pointer]

belly-deep- Just to inform you, the fact that a rancher owns land that borders public land does in no way ensure that they have a grazing permit for that parcel (or any parcel) of public land.

 

[Nemont]

BY,

Why do you care what I do? Biggest buck yada yada yada, how about wanting him to learn that hunting is more then shooting the biggest to brag to idiots? How is my family is taking money?

When I want you opinion on what you would do if you were me trust me I would ask. Don't hold your breath waiting for me to ask you anything.

In addition it is not "my" ranch, my name is not on the deed. Please point to the post and quote me as saying I owned it. I said my inlaws have a place and my family has a place.

Nemont

 

[Blue Yummies]

BY,

Why do you care what I do? Biggest buck yada yada yada, how about wanting him to learn that hunting is more then shooting the biggest to brag to idiots? How is my family is taking money?

When I want you opinion on what you would do if you were me trust me I would ask. Don't hold your breath waiting for me to ask you anything.

Nemont

WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SITE ALL ABOUT??? Showing others who shot the biggest buck. So you are telling me that everybody on this site are a bunch of idiots.
Well there are two reasons that your family is taking money
1.They are not letting there blood relative hunt?
2. They hate you so bad that they are renting the place out just despite you?
You should try and help out around there and maybe they would let you hunt.

 

[shoots-straight]

I see this thread slipped way past it's intended beginning. Landowner, and outfitter set aside tags, are plain wrong. Funding for BMA's should come from other sources. I would like to here some suggestions on funding.

To much blue Yummy tonight?

 

[Blue Yummies]

I make two posts this month and you all throw a stink.
Greenie and Nemont get to run their mouth and it is all fun and games.
If you all want to live in a fantasy land where there are no BAD PEOPLE that make fun of how full of sht you are. Go to a private site called greenhorn and suck each others ego off. But lets call a spade a spade, greenhorn poached that goat and nemont is a hemaphrodite. Shoots straight well hell he shoots blanks, Jose is the only guy who calls it how he sees it,

 

[schmalts]

I Shoots straight well hell he shoots blanks, Jose is the only guy who calls it how he sees it,

you lost all credibility with one statement

 

[shoots-straight]

Hey Blue, try posting in the mornings before you start tipping a few back. You might make more since.
BTW, I've shot blanks for years.

 

[Nemont]

I make two posts this month and you all throw a stink.
Greenie and Nemont get to run their mouth and it is all fun and games.

To earn the right to "run your mouth" at some point you need to add something to the discussion. Review every subject you ever posted on and please point out what value you added to any of them.

Nobody on either side has ever said there are not bad people or even bad hunters. Try to keep up with the discussion rather then being a pervert.

Nemont

 

[Blue Yummies]

Nemont
You are gayier than aids

 

[belly-deep]

Nemont
You are gayier than aids

You can't even speel. Spel. Spell. Third time is a charm.

 

[The Hedgehog]

Just poached this on Big Shooter's place - then shot 2 more cows from the road as I made my hasty retreat..

 

[noharleyyet]

Just poached this on Big Shooter's place

Big Shooter runs an all-girl prep school?

 

[TheTone]

Sweet bull greenie, no wonder big shooter keeps the place on lock down.

 

[JoseCuervo]

I am pretty sure your accomplice is much HOTTER than Cowboy Mama......

You imagine the museum your kids are gonna have to build when you are gone? You will make Elmer Keith's collection look like child's play.

 

[Big Shooter]

Jose, I wouldn't bet on the fact that Greenies little sister/bed partner is hotter than cowboymamma, pretty sure cowboymamma doesn't paint her pants on either.

But anyway, back to the topic at hand which is outrage from some square heads about outfitters and landowners.....answer me this: Why is it that landowners not only hate but actually despise hunting season? I know this one....it is because "hunters" drive up and down the road and try to pick off deer on land that isn't open to public hunting. I know a lot of ranchers that can't hardly get a damn thing done all day because they have managed their grass and their herds and they have great hunting, so in turn the public hunters think that it is their right to shoot them. Not only that but they catch the poor dumb bastards sneaking on off of public onto private and so on. This is why they lease to outfitters, so they can do the patroling and they can deal with the Bull Sh@&! This is also why they refuse to let anyone on to hunt that asks, because they have a bad taste in their mouth about hunters. So instead of sitting on hear flapping your soup coolers about how bad outfitters and landowners are, maybe you should start educating your fellow "DIY" hunters about treating ranchers with some respect and maybe in the future you could maybe gain some access on some otherwise tied up places. DIY hunters have done it to themselves, and I have nothing against DIY hunters. Maybe the name should be changed to "Take it upon yourself hunters" meaning to just take it upon yourself to go where you want when you want and have no respect for anyone or anything.

Or better yet maybe they should stay on public ground that has public access.

P.S. Nice bull Greenie!