Ukraine / Russia

[Redman]

VikingsGuy
100% agree on his timing and I am not suggesting this is happening now. It does set the stage for the final war.
Through study you will find that in fact this is the "End Game".
"You will hear of wars and rumors of war, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen but the end is yet to come."

 

[406dn]

Wasn't there a few who thought a comet was a ticket to heaven?

I put an equal amount stock in every other end of times prediction.

 

[Dave N]

NASCAR Hall of Fame owner Richard Childress donating one million rounds of ammunition to Ukraine

Richard Childress, a 2017 NASCAR Hall of Fame inductee, called the war in Ukraine a "wakeup call" in an interview with Fox News.

www.google.com

Cool way to step up and do something. I met him several years ago at my workplace. Nice guy, for a Chevy man.

 

[mtmiller]

Wasn't there a few who thought a comet was a ticket to heaven?

I put an equal amount stock in every other end of times prediction.

Damn Russian vodka.

 

[RobertD]

Wasn't there a few who thought a comet was a ticket to heaven?

Heaven's Gate, for those curious about whacky cult stuff

 

[shoots-straight]

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Not my prediction...just what I know is "Truth"

So if you took the took the payote and went on a quest just wink to us and we'll be good with it. Otherwise I'll need some other "proof" before I go all "Heil Hitler" over your comment.

 

[CycleFishHunt]

Ukraine’s Deadly Gamble

By tying itself to a reckless and dangerous America, the Ukrainians made a blunder that client states will study for years to come

www.tabletmag.com

I am not going to attempt to defend US foreign policy toward Ukraine (because I cannot). Nor am I going to attempt unpack the author's version of events.

The bottom line is that Putin believes Ukraine is part of Russia, and has said as much, repeatedly. Western aggression, NATO expansion, this or that broken promise, some trade deal, and protecting Russians in eastern Ukraine are all just pretexts.

Possibly he could have accepted an independent Ukraine with friendlier leadership, but really, he just wants Ukraine. (Or in the absence of that to punish them.)

 

[Redman]

So if you took the took the payote and went on a quest just wink to us and we'll be good with it. Otherwise I'll need some other "proof" before I go all "Heil Hitler" over your comment.

Completely understand and I will repeat what I have said in previous comments. I am not saying this is happening now but it is setting the stage for this to happen in the future.
My hope is people will investigate what I have said and I find out "What is Truth".

 

[BigHornRam]

China played Putins ego and convinced him he could get away with this invasion. Putin is bad. China is 10 times worse. We can't lose focus on the bigger threat.

China asked Russia to delay invasion until after Olympics, Western intel shows

A Western intelligence report indicated that Chinese officials in early February requested that senior Russian officials wait until after the Beijing Olympics had finished before beginning an invasion into Ukraine, US officials said Wednesday.

www.cnn.com

 

[Dave N]

I think we all could see that he was waiting for the Olympics. Didn't want to make him OR China look "that" bad.

 

[cwitherow]

Heard about this this morning. The fact that the KSB was involved in PROTECTING the Ukranian president shows how small Putin's circle is.

Zelensky assassination plot foiled, Ukrainian authorities say

"We are well aware of the special operation that was to take place...to eliminate our president."

www.axios.com

 

[BigHornRam]

I think we all could see that he was waiting for the Olympics. Didn't want to make him OR China look "that" bad.

We knew he was invading back then, yet no sanctions until he did. Explain that.

 

[cwitherow]

We knew he was invading back then, yet no sanctions until he did. Explain that.

Sanctions prior to any action could have been the "act of aggression" he was hoping for?

 

[BigHornRam]

Heard about this this morning. The fact that the KSB was involved in PROTECTING the Ukranian president shows how small Putin's circle is.

Zelensky assassination plot foiled, Ukrainian authorities say

"We are well aware of the special operation that was to take place...to eliminate our president."

www.axios.com

Heard that too. Hope the reporting is accurate.

 

[VikingsGuy]

We knew he was invading back then, yet no sanctions until he did. Explain that.

Simple. First, Europe would not have joined during saber rattling phase. Second, Russia was looking for excuses to justify this move and no sense in handing him the “narrative win”. While we all would like the “just punch ‘em in the nose” approach, that is not how international diplomacy works when there is still a chance at avoiding the violence we are now seeing.

 

[Dave N]

Yep. Can't do sanctions for something that hasn't been done yet.

 

[BigHornRam]

Sanctions prior to any action could have been the "act of aggression" he was hoping for?

Act of Aggression was already in play.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/russia-ukraine-invasion/2021/12/03/98a3760e-546b-11ec-8769-2f4ecdf7a2ad_story.html

 

[cwitherow]

Act of Aggression was already in play.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/russia-ukraine-invasion/2021/12/03/98a3760e-546b-11ec-8769-2f4ecdf7a2ad_story.html

The adult version of "I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you".

 

[SAJ-99]

Act of Aggression was already in play.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/russia-ukraine-invasion/2021/12/03/98a3760e-546b-11ec-8769-2f4ecdf7a2ad_story.html

It was about getting Europe on board because they will pay the steepest price for sanctions. Even after the invasion Germany didn’t initially want to go to the severity we see now.

 

[BigHornRam]

Simple. First, Europe would not have joined during saber rattling phase. Second, Russia was looking for excuses to justify this move and no sense in handing him the “narrative win”. While we all would like the “just punch ‘em in the nose” approach, that is not how international diplomacy works when there is still a chance at avoiding the violence we are now seeing.

Feckless.