Ukraine / Russia
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Without any basis of fact or background knowledge, just a fleeting thought I'd pose for the forum...
With the less-than-impressive showing by the Russian military..is it possible their Nukes are not as strong/powerful/capable as initially perceived?
With the less-than-impressive showing by the Russian military..is it possible their Nukes are not as strong/powerful/capable as initially perceived?
BirdManMike
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InReach Guidance system. Plugin a waypoint and let it fly.
VikingsGuy
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Probably not much comfort there. Even if only 10% of the 6,000 warheads worked and they were only 50% as powerful as advertised, most life in America would cease to exist as we know it.
My hope is that the generals in the nuke authority chain exercise some judgment if that order comes down - they have families too and there is little doubt ours will work.
BigHornRam
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Reading all this bureaucratic mumbo jumbo, I'm more concerned about our capabilities, frankly.
Pentagon to Speed Development of Hypersonic Weapons | Arms Control Association
MinnesotaHunter
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In a very general sense, possibly, but in percentages not degrees of magnitude. They might not be quite as accurate, they may not be quite as well maintained, some may be old, but they would still make one hell of a mess.... In my mind, the biggest question with their nukes is the human element. Would that order create dissention in their chain of command....
Not everything the Russians field is junk. The bulk of the Ukrainian equipment is the same technology, minus some of the NATO block stuff. It is no surprise that Javelins and Stingers beat Russian stuff. I saw a couple of T72s killed by Javelins back in 2004.
I think what we are seeing is more the people operating/planning/sustaining their offensive. Coordination and initiative are the Achilles heal of an armored attack. Even if they would have all been outfitted with their best stuff (T90s, BMP-3, BTR-90s) it wouldn't have made a difference if the execution is poorly planned and led... Russian doctrine and military culture is very different than ours. Very hierarchal, no allowance for improvisation or initiative as the fight evolves, leaders don't understand the larger fight, and adjacent units have no idea what each other are doing. I mentioned in an earlier post that the Russians came into this with little, to zero, experience in this kind of fight.
The Russian Integrated Air Defenses have been keeping the majority of the Ukrainian AF on the ground; which is a highly technological system, and rivals our own. I would have been morbidly curious to see this system challenged. I think we could have learned a lot.
VikingsGuy
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My concern for us in a real all-out war is that I doubt we could make replacement weapons or munitions necessary to get past the first year, given how many critical raw materials we no longer produce in the US, our depleted manufacturing capabilities, and our lack of next-gen chip fabs. We have voluntarily de-industrialized ourselves over the last 40 years. I hope this dust-up with Russia and the last two years of covid make us take a long-term strategic look at our ability to be economically self-sustaining in areas other than food and oil.Reading all this bureaucratic mumbo jumbo, I'm more concerned about our capabilities, frankly.
Pentagon to Speed Development of Hypersonic Weapons | Arms Control Association
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Ukraine war exposes cracks in US ties to Middle East allies
UAE and Saudi Arabia are pursuing their own interests, analysts say, as US urges united front against Russia’s Putin.
Did DT hack VG's laptop?Seems like there was a guy talking about that very issue a few years ago
BigHornRam
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This guy?Seems like there was a guy talking about that very issue a few years ago
Trump's Policy "Magic Wand" Boosts Manufacturing Jobs 399% In First 26 Months Over Obama's Last 26
Trump’s pro-growth policies appear to be all the magic the manufacturing sector needed.
www.forbes.com
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longbow51
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Yeah, now I remember; those tweets though. Seriously, though, we seriously need someone who wants to do what VG and Trump said, or we're ultimately toast.This guy?
Trump's Policy "Magic Wand" Boosts Manufacturing Jobs 399% In First 26 Months Over Obama's Last 26
Trump’s pro-growth policies appear to be all the magic the manufacturing sector needed.
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longbow51
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I love it when a plan comes together.
I mention pie and watching girls on HT and now my YT randoms have hot homesteader gals nekid gatherings and baitfish bikini gals in FL.
BackofBeyond
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That’s just pulling straight from your internet search history.
So your sayin the blockers don't work, on Duck duck go LOL Last week it was smokers, Mavericks, and BF hunts.That’s just pulling straight from your internet search history.
At least I know how to torture myself now in my old age if need be.
SAJ-99
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We wouldn't have this manufacturing problem if we all were a bunch of cheapskates.This guy?
Trump's Policy "Magic Wand" Boosts Manufacturing Jobs 399% In First 26 Months Over Obama's Last 26
Trump’s pro-growth policies appear to be all the magic the manufacturing sector needed.
antlerradar
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My concern is that Putin and his generals in their isolated world is thinking that Biden would hesitate to push the button or that Biden is not in charge and in the time it took the people running the US to come to an agreement it would be too late.
As Mariupol hangs on, the extent of the horror not yet known
As Mariupol’s defenders defiantly hold out, the number of bodies in the rubble of the bombarded and encircled Ukrainian city remain shrouded in uncertainty, the full extent of the horror not yet known.
apnews.com
Ukraine refuses to surrender.
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