Handlebar
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Just so I'm clear; we are gonna shoot Russians?
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This is the key. I don't think anyone feels like it's worth finding out how crazy he really is. But, it could come to that anyway, whether this drags on 'too long' for his patience level, resources, crippled economy or something similar, or NATO is forced to intervene
We're learning that if you have nukes, people are hesitant to push you too far. I think there's also an element of hesitancy due to the China/Taiwan situation. If we intervene with Russia, but not with China, then what?
There’s a big difference between a bio lab and a bio weapon lab, but it seems like they’re being used interchangeably lately.
VikingsGuy
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He has gone from annoying to a disgrace over the last 2 years. I hope his pro-Russia stuff finally bites him in the butt.
noharleyyet
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The news cycle is spraying scads of info non stop from many sources and translations...one hour the doves are flying, the next FOAB's are being reported.
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What do y'all think of Tulsi Gabbard?
Search thread. Been discussed.
BigHornRam
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Hamilton has a level 4 bio lab. I would be extremely nervous if this lab was situated in a war zone. Whether the invading army is bright enough to make use of what is in these labs, or not, can be debated.
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thought I had read everything here and did not remember seeing that
BigHornRam
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Apparently Romney and Gabbard are having a piss fight .......
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"There are 25 to 30 us funded bio labs in Ukraine. According to the US government, these bio labs are conducting research on dangerous pathogens,” she said. “Ukraine is in an active war zone with widespread bombing artillery and shelling and these facilities, even in the best of circumstances could easily be compromised and release these deadly pathogens.” She also said the US was funding labs around the world involved in “dangerous research”.
After her video was posted, Republican Senator Mitt Romney tweeted: “Tulsi Gabbard is parroting false Russian propaganda. Her treasonous lies may well cost lives,”
Ms Gabbbard has since “clarified” her remarks, claiming there might have been some “miscommunication and misunderstanding” about the terms bio labs and bio weapons labs.
“‘Biolabs’ are facilities which contain and experiment with dangerous pathogens, ostensibly for the purpose of serving the public good (i.e vaccines, etc.). ‘Biological weapons labs’ are facilities which exist for the purpose of turning pathogens into weapons so they can be used against an enemy (i.e. ‘bioweapons’),” she said on Twitter.
“The danger of pathogens being released from biolabs in Ukraine is very real, and we need to take action immediately to prevent an impending catastrophe.”
She added: “Mitt Romney and others say that I’m treasonous because I called for a ceasefire around the 25+ biolabs in Ukraine to prevent the breach of such facilities and escape of pathogens, and prevent more pandemics. Romney should resign.”
What are the Ukraine ‘biolabs’ and why have they become a focus for Fox News and the US right?
<strong>Explainer:</strong> Andrew Buncombe sets out what we know about bio-labs – and the claims being made about them
"There are 25 to 30 us funded bio labs in Ukraine. According to the US government, these bio labs are conducting research on dangerous pathogens,” she said. “Ukraine is in an active war zone with widespread bombing artillery and shelling and these facilities, even in the best of circumstances could easily be compromised and release these deadly pathogens.” She also said the US was funding labs around the world involved in “dangerous research”.
After her video was posted, Republican Senator Mitt Romney tweeted: “Tulsi Gabbard is parroting false Russian propaganda. Her treasonous lies may well cost lives,”
Ms Gabbbard has since “clarified” her remarks, claiming there might have been some “miscommunication and misunderstanding” about the terms bio labs and bio weapons labs.
“‘Biolabs’ are facilities which contain and experiment with dangerous pathogens, ostensibly for the purpose of serving the public good (i.e vaccines, etc.). ‘Biological weapons labs’ are facilities which exist for the purpose of turning pathogens into weapons so they can be used against an enemy (i.e. ‘bioweapons’),” she said on Twitter.
“The danger of pathogens being released from biolabs in Ukraine is very real, and we need to take action immediately to prevent an impending catastrophe.”
She added: “Mitt Romney and others say that I’m treasonous because I called for a ceasefire around the 25+ biolabs in Ukraine to prevent the breach of such facilities and escape of pathogens, and prevent more pandemics. Romney should resign.”
The US assistant sec of state confirmed under oath in a congressional hearing.
MinnesotaHunter
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Ukraine: Putin will search for a way to save face
What might Putin want, to be able to come out of the war looking good in the eyes of Russia's majority?www.bbc.com
I am starting to think he may be trying to carve out a route out of this, by throwing his advisors under the bus. We saw earlier this week that he placed one of his top FSB leaders under house arrest for providing him bad intelligence on the potential invasion. You also saw pre-invasion that he called in retired senior generals to give him advice on a potential military action, building a cadre of potential scapegoats. This may help him a little in Russia, but won't with the international community.
I think any way out has to provide a way to undo sanctions and isolation Putin incurred by invading, and I can only see that happening based on Putin gaining a strong position to negotiate from or Russia no longer being led by Vlad...
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Interesting to see the maneuvering of an ex-spy vs an actor, and who is clearly making to better moves, laying the deeper groundwater, and over playing the shit out of their hand.
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Mud Season In Ukraine
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I different potential factor considering how much russia is relying on movement of heavy ground equipment.
BigHornRam
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I agree with Romney more then I disagree. On this one however, he misunderstood what was being discussed. Maybe he's getting old and losing his fastball?
Nameless Range
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Equally as strange to me, is how establishment politicians constantly question the loyalty of a veteran (still serving) who has served two tours overseas.
Gabbard is kind of a blowhard and overly dramatic voice, but if the establishment applied one quarter of the criticism they do to her, to instead themselves, the world would be a better place.
Gerontocracy.I agree with Romney more then I disagree. On this one however, he misunderstood what was being discussed. Maybe he's getting old and losing his fastball?
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What could possibly go wrong? And I think most would agree that Ukraine has a reputation for being corrupt. There’s no good side to this thing.
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