Letthemgrow
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Nameless Range
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Found this to be a very moving episode.
Dives into the very understandable reasons of why people are so skeptical of establishment narratives nowadays. Dives into the false equivalency of those who allude to America being no better than Russia, or being to blame . And ends with human stories of why Ukraine is something we should care about deeply.
Barry Weiss consistently puts out the most balanced content I can find.
Dives into the very understandable reasons of why people are so skeptical of establishment narratives nowadays. Dives into the false equivalency of those who allude to America being no better than Russia, or being to blame . And ends with human stories of why Ukraine is something we should care about deeply.
Barry Weiss consistently puts out the most balanced content I can find.
BigHornRam
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She has good instincts. Maybe a bit of an idealist.
Resignation Letter — BARI WEISS
www.bariweiss.com
A more refined level of lobbied corruption.
Heh, couldn't resist. Visible corruption is much less tolerable.
BigHornRam
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Bari's old rag just put out this piece of journalism. Explains why people are skeptical of journalism and Ukraine to some degree. All this took place when Joe was VP.
www.nytimes.com
Hunter Biden Paid Tax Bill, but Broad Federal Investigation Continues (Published 2022)
The Justice Department inquiry into the business dealings of the president’s son has remained active, with a grand jury seeking information about payments from around the world.
VikingsGuy
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Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
www.bloomberg.com
Addicting
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Until she talks, then she is a solid 1.5-2.
VikingsGuy
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Even Trump realizes pro-Putin spin has become a political loser now, wonder if Tucker pivots soon?
www.startribune.com
Trump admits he's 'surprised' at Putin's invasion of Ukraine
Former president says he thinks Russian leader has "very much changed."
www.startribune.com
BigHornRam
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Tucker is more of a dove.....similar to Gabbard and Jon Huntsman Jr.. They have their opinions, doesn't make them pro-Putin.Even Trump realizes pro-Putin spin has become a political loser now, wonder if Tucker pivots soon?
Trump admits he's 'surprised' at Putin's invasion of Ukraine
Former president says he thinks Russian leader has "very much changed."
‘He’s done. The Putin era is over,’ former Ambassador Jon Huntsman says
Former Ambassador to Russia Jon Huntsman says the Putin era in Russia is over. It's just a matter of how much damage he'll do before it ends.
"A major frustration for Huntsman was the lack of effort to find a diplomatic solution before the conflict began. He believes there was room for some preventive diplomacy, but it was ignored because the U.S. has adopted a “military-first” approach."
BigHornRam
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Here is a more hawkish POV for contrast.
BigHornRam
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Here is some rambling incoherence.
Handlebar
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Maybe Romney can fly them over. Too many hawks on both sides that talk tough and wave goodbye from the US shoreline.
np307
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There's a difference between being a dove and repeating Chinese and Russian state-sponsored propagandaTucker is more of a dove.....similar to Gabbard and Jon Huntsman Jr.. They have their opinions, doesn't make them pro-Putin.
‘He’s done. The Putin era is over,’ former Ambassador Jon Huntsman says
Former Ambassador to Russia Jon Huntsman says the Putin era in Russia is over. It's just a matter of how much damage he'll do before it ends.www.sltrib.com
"A major frustration for Huntsman was the lack of effort to find a diplomatic solution before the conflict began. He believes there was room for some preventive diplomacy, but it was ignored because the U.S. has adopted a “military-first” approach."
BigHornRam
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Give an example. Direct quote of the offender repeating the propoganda.
np307
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Its already been discussed in this thread.
BigHornRam
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Give the quote then.
BigHornRam
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Propaganda or solid journalism?
www.newsweek.com
China Planned Taiwan Invasion in Fall, Alleged Russian Intel Leak Claims
The claim contradicted Taiwan's own intelligence services, which said a move by Beijing wasn't likely in the near future.
www.newsweek.com
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The whole bio weapons thing.
Russia has a right to defend itself
Claims US actions in Ukraine were undermining Russian security
... etc.
I think the dove perspective it is an important piece of the conversation, but I don't see that as Carlson's angle. WWIII with Nukes is untenable, tragic while it may be - plunging the US + Europe into a hot war with Russia would mean greater loss of life, etc are IMHO reasonable arguments.
I don't think Carlson is a "Russian agent" as a bunch of partisan groups have claimed, I do think he is hyper partisan and cares way more about giving the Biden administration a black eye than about the negative consequences of his rhetoric on US security, and our politic.
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BigHornRam
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The link provided was from a Stephen Cobert show. Provided a direct quote from the horses mouth please.
noharleyyet
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Is Russian Agent the new Godwin?
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