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noharleyyet
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Biden to announce $800M in new aid for Ukraine; Russian forces take 500 hostages in Mariupol hospital, official says: March 15 recap
President Joe Biden on Wednesday is expected to announce an additional $800 million in military aid for Ukraine. Tuesday's recap.
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I was just reading an article from the AP that said both sides still retain about 90% of their military capacity/ ability at this point. That is likely hard to prove/ could be mis-information from both sides, but I thought that was interesting. It’s hard to put situations like this into a relatable context from around the globe, but if Ukraine is slowing them down as much as they have and still has 90% of their military assets, I would say they are doing one hell of a job with the hand they were dealt.
Irrelevant
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then what the AP actually means is they both only have 9% of their military capabilities left
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Wow - literally two ends of the spectrum. I guess that goes to show this is a war of information almost as much as a ground war (not trying to take anything away from the ground war, it’s just interesting to see what info comes to us).
“Russia has launched more than 950 missiles so far in the war, and both Russia and Ukraine still retain about 90% of their combat power, the official said.”
Live updates: US believes Russia may need reinforcements
WASHINGTON — Russian ground troops have made limited progress over the last 24 hours in their effort to seize major cities in Ukraine, a senior defense official said Tuesday.
Marshian
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What do you guys think of the biolab situation? I know some Tucker Carlson fans and they think we shouldn’t fund the labs and there is more to this story. To me, the labs were known about and it’s no big shock if they were studying pathogens since they border a hostile country. Ukraine is pretty poor so I don’t have issue with the US funding this as long as there isn’t weaponization. I realize people are nervous since COVID may well have been lab leaked but I still think overall Russia propaganda that’s been parroted by some in media for whatever purpose.
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4ohSick
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The sources spreading this information are Russian and Chinese state media, QAnon, and Tucker Carlson. I think that's your answer.
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SAJ-99
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They grow a lot of winter wheat and corn. The wheat is going to start coming up, war or no war. The issue will be harvest in a few months. The corn is the opposite. it might not get planted. US Dec corn is trading at $6.50. Lack of planting there and any kind of moisture problems here and corn can easily see $8 probably $10.
VikingsGuy
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For US consumers crop prices are (relatively speaking) a drop in the bucket, but for the global marginalized populations - the billion or so who are fed on a dollar a day - it will be a humanitarian crisis.
For additional context, about one-half of the world lives on $5.50 a day for all costs - housing, food, clothing, etc. This type of spike in prices and loss of production in the eastern hemisphere will be a complete catastrophe for these folks.
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Was curious about VG's comment - thought I'd share some interesting figures.
Most recent I found was from 2013. I'm sure there's been a shift with the recent economic flip... U.S. $ tends to trip the world market...
Source:
news.gallup.com
Most recent I found was from 2013. I'm sure there's been a shift with the recent economic flip... U.S. $ tends to trip the world market...
Source:
Worldwide, Median Household Income About $10,000
New Gallup global income data estimate the median household income across 131 countries at $9,733, and median per-capita income at $2,920. Incomes in the 10 wealthiest countries are more than 50 times those in the 10 poorest.
news.gallup.com
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Yeah, these are poor people who tasted 30 years worth of freedom and they're willing to die for it. Things to think about...Was curious about VG's comment - thought I'd share some interesting figures.
Most recent I found was from 2013. I'm sure there's been a shift with the recent economic flip... U.S. $ tends to trip the world market...
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Worldwide, Median Household Income About $10,000
New Gallup global income data estimate the median household income across 131 countries at $9,733, and median per-capita income at $2,920. Incomes in the 10 wealthiest countries are more than 50 times those in the 10 poorest.
SAJ-99
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Totally agree. I remember reading a long time ago that if the price of corn doubled, the input cost of corn in a box of corn flakes would go up $0.05, or something ridiculous like that. Other countries are in a different spot on these price increases.
Nameless Range
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Another podcast. This one I found fascinating. The guest is Christian Brose, former Director of the Senate Armed Services Committee and author of Kill Chain: Defending America and the Future of High-Tech Warfare. I found it very disturbing/compelling.
The US continually performs very poor in wargames vs China. Though those games aren't perfect, Brose makes a very convincing(to me) case that they are genuine signals of our military not being up to snuff in the modern world. Some things from the podcast:
On how Taiwan should be looking at the battlefield in Ukraine and prepping for China with drones:
"A hundred plus miles of open water to an amphibious landing into the teeth of the right kind of military capabilities? That's a nasty problem."
On how much money we spend on our military vs our competitors, and American skepticism about the dollars being poured into the military industrial complex:
"It's of course about the money, but it's not about the money.....We are doing most of the wrong things. If you throw more money, at the wrong decisions, you are not going to end up in a better place."
On battlefields that are influenced by high-tech:
"Being found, and being affected once found is becoming a harder and harder problem to defend against."
There was a lot more, and the guy really seemed to know his stuff. He really makes a case that we need to be investing in expendable and cheaper technologies as opposed to eleventy-billion dollar big deals that once destroyed, are very difficult to replace. He also talks about how war and how we invest in defense, is somewhat corrupted and not influenced as much as it should be by typical market forces.
Maybe it is again inappropriate or premature to imagine the US Military engaging with some very capable competitors while Ukraine burns, but I don't think anyone could argue against the fact that it is more likely today than it was a month ago.
Here's the link:
The US continually performs very poor in wargames vs China. Though those games aren't perfect, Brose makes a very convincing(to me) case that they are genuine signals of our military not being up to snuff in the modern world. Some things from the podcast:
On how Taiwan should be looking at the battlefield in Ukraine and prepping for China with drones:
"A hundred plus miles of open water to an amphibious landing into the teeth of the right kind of military capabilities? That's a nasty problem."
On how much money we spend on our military vs our competitors, and American skepticism about the dollars being poured into the military industrial complex:
"It's of course about the money, but it's not about the money.....We are doing most of the wrong things. If you throw more money, at the wrong decisions, you are not going to end up in a better place."
On battlefields that are influenced by high-tech:
"Being found, and being affected once found is becoming a harder and harder problem to defend against."
There was a lot more, and the guy really seemed to know his stuff. He really makes a case that we need to be investing in expendable and cheaper technologies as opposed to eleventy-billion dollar big deals that once destroyed, are very difficult to replace. He also talks about how war and how we invest in defense, is somewhat corrupted and not influenced as much as it should be by typical market forces.
Maybe it is again inappropriate or premature to imagine the US Military engaging with some very capable competitors while Ukraine burns, but I don't think anyone could argue against the fact that it is more likely today than it was a month ago.
Here's the link:
Irrelevant
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He has a very good team of speech writers and video editors.
I still stand by that someone else will get involved and this will escalate before it's over. The sooner the happens the sooner we can get this over with.
Irrelevant
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Ukraine: Putin will search for a way to save face
What might Putin want, to be able to come out of the war looking good in the eyes of Russia's majority?
www.bbc.com
What if...
Flip the tables on this bully. U.S. responds strictly in Ukraine. Air superiority, ground troops, armored branch - hammer Russia out of Ukrainian borders. Reports indicate the Russian military are not nearly as prepared for Putin's objective.
U.S. military theater is strictly Ukrainian based. Sets up multiple temporary bases (yes, we already have an Air Base in Ukraine).
Return common personnel at the Poltava Air Base and pull back to Poland, etc as part of an agreement to end hostilities with Russia (not Putin) - return to the status quo.
U.S. porpaganda machine whirls into full action as a "Humanitarian necessity". Humanitarian, not only for Ukranian though also for Russian military - run News Media. Propaganda full force with Russia underground media, etc.
U.S. continues with strictly "conventional" means and maintains humanitarian purpose.
The table flips on the Putin bully squad, and he's faced to make a world effecting nuclear decision or agrees to a draw down. Thus, draw down back to the original status quo, now with Ukraine armed and better prepared with the usual left behind military surplus.
It's a what if.
Flip the tables on this bully. U.S. responds strictly in Ukraine. Air superiority, ground troops, armored branch - hammer Russia out of Ukrainian borders. Reports indicate the Russian military are not nearly as prepared for Putin's objective.
U.S. military theater is strictly Ukrainian based. Sets up multiple temporary bases (yes, we already have an Air Base in Ukraine).
Return common personnel at the Poltava Air Base and pull back to Poland, etc as part of an agreement to end hostilities with Russia (not Putin) - return to the status quo.
U.S. porpaganda machine whirls into full action as a "Humanitarian necessity". Humanitarian, not only for Ukranian though also for Russian military - run News Media. Propaganda full force with Russia underground media, etc.
U.S. continues with strictly "conventional" means and maintains humanitarian purpose.
The table flips on the Putin bully squad, and he's faced to make a world effecting nuclear decision or agrees to a draw down. Thus, draw down back to the original status quo, now with Ukraine armed and better prepared with the usual left behind military surplus.
It's a what if.
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