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What if the mob had Remington 700's with Walker triggers?
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Come on Ben, you are getting ridiculous. I suspect the law doesn't require antlerless hunting with a general tag, but if it does that would obviously have to be changed instead of FWP going rogue. I was thinking of something like the controlled hunts of years past where cow tags were issued by district, perhaps with restrictions on which dates they could be used. The hunt would continue through February if the goal was to reduce herd size. That is entirely within the possible.
So your idea is to restrict access to tags, which would put FWP in direct violation of their legislative mandate to manage wildlife "at or below" objective?
That would be illegal and would be challenged in court and be used to further weaken the agency at the legislature, no?
Ben you haven't proposed anything that will work under any circumstances. But, I'll bite, what is the "this" you refer to.I'm not being ridiculous, I'm being real. If you think the last two sessions were bad, wait until the gavel falls on the 64th.
This is exactly what the Senate President and the Chairman of Senate Fish & Game will come at us with.
Ben,
By issuing very few cow tags valid for public land, the shoot-outs go away. It also puts the issue back on the landowners if they feel the need to keep wildlife "at or below" objectives. If they want elk numbers decreased, here's a list of private land tag holders. Use it or shut up about it.
Elk need to be actively managed in 2 categories (and the EMP already allows for it), those elk that use/live on public lands, and those that are harbored...management options and tag allocations should reflect same
Hunters need to push back and put the ball back in the LO's and Outfitters court. Give them all the tools they need to help with the "problem"...let them decide if they want to be part of the solution or continue to be part of the problem.
Put some responsibility back on the LO's and OF and quit blaming hunters for the situation they and their legislature have created.
Ben you haven't proposed anything that will work under any circumstances. But, I'll bite, what is the "this" you refer to.
I'm supporting increased fines as a way to deter the behavior, and I'm supporting better funding to increase warden presence and I'm waiting on language related to increasing funding for block management to help ensure we continue to have a robust and growing program. Apologies if that's not clear. I'm also supportive of moving to an HD and season like Buzz & Shoots point out, but I'm also understanding that this kind of action has an unequal and opposite reaction when the people who were elected by their constituents come in to town for the next 5 months.
Those things work. Establishing new HD's, etc work, but it still creates bad blood and conflict politics.
While I'm all for what you and Rob are proposing, I think it backfires politically. Look at how many sessions we've had to fight against the Legislature setting seasons in the Missouri River Breaks and the bundled districts (3, with this one being #4).
Given the make up of our legislature, do you believe that this action would go unpunished? BTW - 104 bill draft requests are in and the session hasn't started yet.
"Well, I guess we can all just keep kicking the can down the road"...I remember hearing that from some dude named Ben Lamb once.
"Everybody keeps looking to the commission to do something,” Vermillion said. “I’m not sure there’s a whole lot we can do except continue to try to educate hunters and providing enough opportunities that the elk get a little more spread out during hunting season.”
*Please see attached release regarding the upcoming regional Citizens’ Advisory Committee meeting and the associated agenda.
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Contact: Andrea Jones, 406-994-6931
FEBRUARY 23, 2015
REGION 3 CITIZENS’ ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO MEET THURSDAY EVENING
(Bozeman, MT)—Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks’ Region 3 Citizens’ Advisory Committee will meet in Bozeman on Thursday, Feb. 26 at the FWP Regional Office (1400 S. 19th Ave.) from 6 p.m. – 8:30 p.m.
The CAC meets quarterly to provide input and guidance on the many natural resource and management issues addressed by FWP in southwest Montana. All meetings are open to the public.
The CAC agreed at its December meeting to focus its efforts (at least in the short term) on a hunter ethics campaign. Therefore, the committee intends to use its time Thursday evening reporting on subcommittee work related to the campaign and discussing next steps in the process (i.e. funding and potential deliverables).
For more information about the Region 3 Citizens’ Advisory Committee, visit the FWP Web site at http://fwp.mt.gov/regions/r3/cac/.
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Just my humble opinion, but that campaign won't do a darned thing. A 40 year old guy isn't going to change because of a TV clip. And young hunters may learn the right way in Hunter Ed, but ultimately they will likely fall back on what example they see their family and friends set.