The housing shortage and public lands

[JLS]

But I do know that the more power we give to the government directly correlates to less power to the citizens.

Interesting dichotomy here. Do you want more police and be tough on crime, which equates to more governmental power, or do you want to defund the police and transfer government power to citizens?

The government helping people through social programs doesn’t necessarily equate to “governmental power”. That seems to be the term we use for shit we don’t like and don’t agree with.

 

[Gerald Martin]

What has 48 arms & 5 teeth?

The front row of a bluegrass concert in WV.

Don’t you be diss in’ WV. They invented the toothbrush….

If it had been invented anywhere else it would have been named a teeth brush.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Interesting dichotomy here. Do you want more police and be tough on crime, which equates to more governmental power, or do you want to defund the police and transfer government power to citizens?

The government helping people through social programs doesn’t necessarily equate to “governmental power”. That seems to be the term we use for shit we don’t like and don’t agree with.

I think we tend to confuse effective government with small government.

 

[OntarioHunter]

What has 48 arms & 5 teeth?

The front row of a bluegrass concert in WV.

Arms as in limbs or guns? Maybe both?

 

[LWC55]

Interesting dichotomy here. Do you want more police and be tough on crime, which equates to more governmental power, or do you want to defund the police and transfer government power to citizens?

The government helping people through social programs doesn’t necessarily equate to “governmental power”. That seems to be the term we use for shit we don’t like and don’t agree with.

I don't look at protecting citizens from criminals as the government taking power from law abiding citizens. Actually the opposite.

I'm all for helping those that need it through government programs. But I think we can all see that during covid you can have too much of a good thing. When you can make more sitting on the couch.....most will sit on the couch.

 

[JLS]

I don't look at protecting citizens from criminals as the government taking power from law abiding citizens. Actually the opposite.

Until you have aggressive stop and frisk policy as New York did for years. When does it transition from protection to overreach, or does that depend on whose ox is getting gored?

 

[Ben Lamb]

I don't look at protecting citizens from criminals as the government taking power from law abiding citizens. Actually the opposite.

I'm all for helping those that need it through government programs. But I think we can all see that during covid you can have too much of a good thing. When you can make more sitting on the couch.....most will sit on the couch.

The vast majority of graft from the COVID payments was corporate. Like Tom Brady buying a yacht while taking $4 million in gov't handouts.

 

[Gerald Martin]

Did someone say bluegrass?!!! This one’s for you @Europe.

 

[LWC55]

Until you have aggressive stop and frisk policy as New York did for years. When does it transition from protection to overreach, or does that depend on whose ox is getting gores?

Tough to answer. How many murders are worth a stop and frisk? But I agree. There has to be a balance in there somewhere.

 

[LWC55]

The vast majority of graft from the COVID payments was corporate. Like Tom Brady buying a yacht while taking $4 million in gov't handouts.

Red herring. But I am against that too.

 

[JLS]

Tough to answer. How many murders are worth a stop and frisk?

You just made my point. People are willing to give up power and freedom to the government when they view the return as a benefit. If you aren’t subjected to stop and frisk, and it maybe lowers the murder rate, then it’s awesome. I’d you’re being detained on a regular basis, and potentially subject to use of force because you’re sick of government overreach, then it sucks ass.

It’s entirely contradictory for one segment of society to rail against the defund the police movement, yet want to gut and or abolish the ESA. Both are efforts to reduce government overreach, albeit real or perceived.

 

[Ben Lamb]

Red herring. But I am against that too.

I'd rather cash go into the hands of Americans who don't get to buy islands, yachts or Ferraris, personally. Or fake preachers like Osteen, etc. Big Gov't & Big business don't like that.

 

[Gerald Martin]

Tough to answer. How many murders are worth a stop and frisk? But I agree. There has to be a balance in there somewhere.

Just as long as they’re only stopping and frisking that shady looking dude over there who’s giving me the creeps…. Wait, what do you mean that’s my reflection in the mirror?

 

[Nameless Range]

Welcome to hunt talk.



To be clear I’m not chitting on anyone. It’s just funny when you read the first page, skip the next 10, and then pick up on the most recent

 

[Gerald Martin]

Welcome to hunt talk.

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To be clear I’m not shitting on anyone. It’s just funny when you read the first page, skip the next 10, and then pick up on the most recent

With obligatory references to bacon pants.

 

[Gerald Martin]

 

[Deleted member 28227]

Just as long as they’re only stopping and frisking that shady looking dude over there who’s giving me the creeps…. Wait, what do you mean that’s my reflection in the mirror?

When @SFC B gets busted in the NYC subway with a pocket knife are we super liberal pro crime or super conservative hard on crime.

How about the anti-vagrant laws in MA aka no camping? Those shit hole reliving or inducing laws.

 

[Otto Matic]

Buffs35​

Well-known member​

BigHornRam said:
Can I get a link to one of these 0% loans, Otto? Thanks!

you just have to own a bank.

LMFAO!

 

[JLS]

It’s just funny when you read the first page, skip the next 10, and then pick up on the most recent

Guilty…..

 

[Ben Lamb]

Guilty…..

All of us on a Friday