Ryan Busse. Anyone?

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Not that I consider Busse an, "enemy", though I find identifying opposition strengths and weakness as a premium value. Those who support his beliefs, cheers.
I have his audiobook version. 10 hr listen.

Personally, I may strongly disagree with Busse though a favorite speech comes to mind by Theodore Roosevelt as I view what he says as his reasons for his path and about the only post in this entire thread I give fair, objective value is Randy's.

I've met Busse and take him as a man of conviction. (I feel i have a pretty good initial read of a person) Misgiided by emotion and new vaulted empowerment by his connection to the Biden/Gifford fame train.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."
 
If Busse is a turncoat and Hossblur’s post helps him sell more books does that make Hossblur a turncoat too?

No, simply shows the genius.

Nothing gives a anti gun crusader more street cred with the left, than best seller on NY Times.
 
Not that I consider Busse an, "enemy", though I find identifying opposition strengths and weakness as a premium value. Those who support his beliefs, cheers.
I have his audiobook version. 10 hr listen.

Personally, I may strongly disagree with Busse though a favorite speech comes to mind by Theodore Roosevelt as I view what he says as his reasons for his path and about the only post in this entire thread I give fair, objective value is Randy's.

I've met Busse and take him as a man of conviction. (I feel i have a pretty good initial read of a person) Misgiided by emotion and new vaulted empowerment by his connection to the Biden/Gifford fame train.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."


Some dudes truly take themselves too seriously.

Dude is "champion" for public land.

"Built" Kimber"

Now Gifford's.

99.9% of folks on either side of the aisle, would not know him, nor know of him.

Political hacks are a dime a dozen.

I recognized him, not for anything he did, but because I was looking into Cliven Bundy, and he showed up to mouth off at a speech that old crank was giving.
 
Your'e too modest. On this board, you've helped bolster his credibility, more than you know.
Oh, I know.

My PM box has told me so.

Some folks will write pages on color, climate, time of year. They will consider variables, exceptions, meaningless drivel.

I'll just tell you the sky is blue.

Plain spoken, ain't real common in some places.
 
As Kevin Costner put it to Bed Masterson, I. Wyatt Earp

"You're not a deliberate man Ed. I don't sense that about you. You're too affable"

Some folks, are affable. Some are direct.

Notice, Ed Masterson got killed being affable😉

Or as Randy's logging fam, and my construction fam would say,

"Don't piss down my leg and tell me it's raining".

Don't join Gifford's, and pretend to be anything other than radically anti gun or the check is big
 
One point that many fail to consider is that a gun made in 1885 or 1911 hasn’t changed since it was designed, yet all the regulations that have since been imposed, still don’t change human behavior.

Too many people are trying to regulate the wrong thing. Guns haven’t changed and still the perception of more regulation being the solution continues to persist.

Emotion and fear drives the anti gun effort and no one successfully argues the necessity to modify human behavior rather than restrict guns.

The second amendment isn’t about hunting.
 
Emotion and fear drives the anti gun effort and no one successfully argues the necessity to modify human behavior rather than restrict guns.

The second amendment isn’t about hunting.

It would be easy to argue that the pro gun culture is similarly driven. Just look at gun and ammo sales during the Obama presidency.

I agree with the second statement.
 
It would be easy to argue that the pro gun culture is similarly driven. Just look at gun and ammo sales during the Obama presidency.
This is predicated on @shrapnel 's comment. Democrats desire more regulation. Thus people buy more firearms.
 
Every time i hear someone say "gun show loophole" it makes me think they either don't know anything about gun laws or they are being intentionally misleading.

It makes me think that we're blindly ignoring the guy at the show with a table full of firearms and parts that is just a "collector" with an LLC who's selling & trading without an FFL, or that we pretend like there aren't deals being made on the side or in the parking lot. I picked up a S&W M39 that way.

@Sytes regardless of where that ad was placed, it is part of the issue at hand: the fetishizing of dystopian and authoritarian principles over public service. I am 100% in support of police and think they need these kinds of tools in order to meet the current threats of today, which are heavily armed and organized. But given all that's going on in our nation, maybe taking a step back from this kind of testosterone fueled romanticism is needed at least in the marketing space.

This is an actual member of congress. OXUU3RSEIJJYRDXUWTHAHVTGK4.jpg
 
One point that many fail to consider is that a gun made in 1885 or 1911 hasn’t changed since it was designed, yet all the regulations that have since been imposed, still don’t change human behavior.

Too many people are trying to regulate the wrong thing. Guns haven’t changed and still the perception of more regulation being the solution continues to persist.

Emotion and fear drives the anti gun effort and no one successfully argues the necessity to modify human behavior rather than restrict guns.

The second amendment isn’t about hunting.
Government regulation and modification of human behavior?

That should go over well...
 
One point that many fail to consider is that a gun made in 1885 or 1911 hasn’t changed since it was designed, yet all the regulations that have since been imposed, still don’t change human behavior.

Too many people are trying to regulate the wrong thing. Guns haven’t changed and still the perception of more regulation being the solution continues to persist.

Shrap is right. We have a culture problem, not a gun problem. We've gone rounds on this board relative to solutions for issues around gun violence.

1.) Suicide by firearm is one of the largest data points for gun violence. Including better mental health options with insurance, or ensuring that mental healthcare is available for all would help reduce that significantly. So does locking up your guns.

2.) Domestic Violence is the primary driver of gun deaths in a lot of America, especially rural America. That can be caused by a variety of issues and you'll never get to the bottom of it, but having better safety nets for abuse victims, and making punishment of abusers more severe could help.

3.) Crimes of desperation: whether is it's the South Side of Chicago or the Hollers of West Virginia, inescapable, grinding poverty is largely the driving force behind violence.

4.) Loss of strong male role models among young men in tough situations. I see this across the board, regardless of the community you live in. I didn't pay this as much attention until I started listening to what police were saying relative to a lack of kind, compassionate and strong men leading young people to a stronger version of themselves. I don't have the answer here, but programs like Big Brothers & Big Sisters, local YMCA's, etc have to be part of a community lead solution. I've seen tribal programs that deal with this, and my understanding is that they have an impact, and help kids stay out of trouble long enough to find the value in themselves that they previously hadn't seen.

More gun laws won't fix any of that.
 
@Sytes regardless of where that ad was placed, it is part of the issue at hand: the fetishizing of dystopian and authoritarian principles over public service. I am 100% in support of police and think they need these kinds of tools in order to meet the current threats of today, which are heavily armed and organized. But given all that's going on in our nation, maybe taking a step back from this kind of testosterone fueled romanticism is needed at least in the marketing space.

The advertisement you selected is pre 2005. 17+ years ago.
 
The advertisement you selected is pre 2005. 17+ years ago.

17 years of that kind of machismo isn't part of the issue? Come on buddy. We invaded Iraq in 2001. We celebrate the military at an almost deified status in this country, and our police have come to resemble a much more militarized force than the local beat cop with a service weapon and billy club. Part of that is due to the ease of getting firearms in this country, part of that is due to the US Gov't wanting to sell used military gear, and part of that is due to a culture that glorifies violence (Said after I binge-watched Peacemaker which is one of the most violent shows out at the moment).

It also kinda reinforces Busse's claims as well.
 
It makes me think that we're blindly ignoring the guy at the show with a table full of firearms and parts that is just a "collector" with an LLC who's selling & trading without an FFL, or that we pretend like there aren't deals being made on the side or in the parking lot. I picked up a S&W M39 that way.

I wont deny that private sales happen at gun shows, but I don't think it's what it's made out to be in the media. When I was a NR working in TX and had a TX issued concealed carry permit i failed to meet anyone at a gunshow that would privately sell me a pistol i wanted. What is the proposal to "close the loophole", making it illegal for non FFL's to display firearms at gun shows or require universal background checks? If it's the latter, "the gunshow loophole" is a misleading buzzword.
 
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