The closure is to ensure simply that all firearms sales at gunshows must go through the NCIS background check. States that have implemented this also provide the set up and people to process those checks. Whether or not that works, I don't know.
Ryan Busse. Anyone?
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The closure is to ensure simply that all firearms sales at gunshows must go through the NCIS background check. States that have implemented this also provide the set up and people to process those checks. Whether or not that works, I don't know.
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It’s hard for me to find the logic in allowing private sales of firearms without an NCIS check.
There needs to be a serious investment in that system to make it work well, though, and to ensure that LEO's follow up on hits. There's a fine line here between a gun registry though, and ensuring the wrong people don't buy guns.
When, exactly, did violence not get celebrated? During the outlaw period of late 1800's? Or Viking period of 900's?
The "militarization" of police forces coincides with the militarization of cartels and gangs.
No beat cop is wandering in S. Chicago on a Saturday night, with a billy club.
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Absolutely.
They're not doing it anywhere. Bozeman MT has an MRAP and SWAT team. Moundsville WV has a population of 9,000. They have an MRAP. Are they legitimate tools for police work? Yep. Especially when there are violent extremists on both sides of the aisle trying to push us towards a civil war. Does a WV town of 9,000 need one? Probably not.
If you look at the marketing of firearms from back through the 1800's, there's a tinge of romanticism, sure, but nothing like we've seen in the last 20 years or so. I think there's a big difference between the old Savage pistol ads with a kid in them talking about how safe they are and the drone shooting dude from a silencer company acting like he's Mad Max. We've gone from firearms as tools to firearms as part of one group's virtue signaling, and then some. Black Rifle Coffee Company, for example. Or magazines with their own logos, etc. It's all fetishizing. We tend to want to believe that we're all badass warriors who seek to defend what we love when in reality, we're just feeding a machine designed to pump out product as fas as we can. This is part of Dwight D. Eisenhower's prediction relative to the Military-Industrial Complex.
America has taken it up a notch in terms of celebrating that culture, rather than acting responsibly with the power we have. An industry executive is laying out exactly how it happened, yet rather than believe him we're spending god knows how much bandwidth arguing about why he did it, not the actual lines he lays out to show us how.
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Obamas rhetoric had nothing to do with that though right?
I haven't finished the book yet, but he highlights that Kimber never made an AR or polymer handgun under his tenure, but still sold a boatload of guns.
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Maybe i'm misremembering my gun show experiences but I was under the impression that was the case already - needed FFL to sell at gunshow and FFL requires you to run a background check. It might be that because I was living on the road for a decade, all my gun show experiences were as a NR so the private sellers would not sell to me.
That's not the case everywhere. I've only been to gun shows in Montana and no one asks for a thing except cash at those.
Yes, laws keep honest people honest, but they also provide the accountability for those who do bad things.
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between buying and selling guns for for 30 years and inheriting my dad's, and grandad's guns, yea- I have no idea I could probably guess to within 10? What should I do, put them on a spreadsheet?
I'm somewhere north of 50 myself. I've lost track. I created a spreadsheet for insurance purposes in case of theft or fire. There's some software made specifically for this, but between excel and access, you can create your own including photos.
Ben, I believe much of this is due to America's largely politically polarized opinions on our first and second amendments. I look at additional regulations as an affront towards law abiding citizens and our Second Amendment Rights.
Some Americans are selective based on their emotional opinions regarding our Bill of Rights, First Amendment under the belief our 1A applies to some though not to others. Example: Advertising Central Hudson Gas & Electric v. Public Service Commission, 447 U.S. 557 (1980) . The Hudson Central test applies. "i.e. false advertisement is not protected by our first amendment.
While some in America have an opinion that firearm advertisements should not be permitted - they stomp on their own rights in proclaiming such.
That advertisement, pre 2005, advertised to military and Law Enforcement - you find that a violation of our first amendment, or of a personal opinion, distasteful, is beyond me. That is the exact purpose of that tool. In no Knock settings, be it military (no knock is common practice) or U.S. law enforcement where "No Knock" is rigidly scrutinized by the Judge evaluating the merits of the severity of threat to our American family mothers, fathers, sons, and daughters who place life on the line to protect the innocent while serving the warrant(s). A television fictional thrill show is "fictional".
Regarding "Tactical Chads": Of course, who are the anti-2A people going to focus upon? Hey, it paints a picture... be it false though regardless, media misrepresenting a protest is not a new practice - I believe we both agree on this(?). First, to point out, a law abiding citizen is not based on his/her fat content, nor the lawful freedom of expression, being lawful ownership / carry. As much as vagina heads made their point though highly doubt their vagina's were remotely of same definition...
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You are a master of deflection.
If the NRA was close to the truth, he'd have confiscated every gun. There are ads right now, stating Biden is about to do the same.
Wait. What?
A pistol(illegal for kids to own) add with a kid?
Why I was told, including a pic, in this thread, that was marketing to kids, and it was unbelievable. Yet, you're telling me, that back in pretend romantic land you seem to have dreamed up, that a gun company marketed to kids, using a kid, for pistols, which are illegal for kids to use.
And then you follow it up with how we romanticize guns now, unlike in your dream world.
Can you show me the dime store novels about the Columbine kids? Because I can show you them for a host of murderers such as Billy the Kid, Jesse James, etc.
Who is Bonnie and Clyde?
Ever read The Godfather?
Ever listen to Marty Robbins?
Ever heard of Colt? Browning? Mauser?
This whitewashed version of history you keep talking about, never existed
And you are deliberating misinterpreting what I said to fit your narrative.
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