Ryan Busse. Anyone?

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Ben Lamb said:
I'm somewhere north of 50 myself. I've lost track. I created a spreadsheet for insurance purposes in case of theft or fire. There's some software made specifically for this, but between excel and access, you can create your own including photos.
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Big Brother hacks that shit, Ben. I think I'm gonna go with graph paper and a Polaroid.


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Sytes said:
Ben, I believe much of this is due to America's largely politically polarized opinions on our first and second amendments. I look at additional regulations as an affront towards law abiding citizens and our Second Amendment Rights.

Some Americans are selective based on their emotional opinions regarding our Bill of Rights, First Amendment under the belief our 1A applies to some though not to others. Example: Advertising Central Hudson Gas & Electric v. Public Service Commission, 447 U.S. 557 (1980) . The Hudson Central test applies. "i.e. false advertisement is not protected by our first amendment.
While some in America have an opinion that firearm advertisements should not be permitted - they stomp on their own rights in proclaiming such.

That advertisement, pre 2005, advertised to military and Law Enforcement - you find that a violation of our first amendment, or of a personal opinion, distasteful, is beyond me. That is the exact purpose of that tool. In no Knock settings, be it military (no knock is common practice) or U.S. law enforcement where "No Knock" is rigidly scrutinized by the Judge evaluating the merits of the severity of threat to our American family mothers, fathers, sons, and daughters who place life on the line to protect the innocent while serving the warrant(s). A television fictional thrill show is "fictional".

Regarding "Tactical Chads": Of course, who are the anti-2A people going to focus upon? Hey, it paints a picture... be it false though regardless, media misrepresenting a protest is not a new practice - I believe we both agree on this(?). First, to point out, a law abiding citizen is not based on his/her fat content, nor the lawful freedom of expression, being lawful ownership / carry. As much as vagina heads made their point though highly doubt their vagina's were remotely of same definition...
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Charles,

I agree with your first paragraph.

Pertaining to your second & third paragraphs, we banned tobacco & hard alcohol adverts on television for a variety of reasons, including the marketing to kids. The United States Gov't could ban this kind of activity easily if they wanted. And while I find those gun ads distasteful, I don't think they should be banned. Rather, I think that marketing companies & their clients should hold themselves to a higher standard. I'm not commenting on the validity of no knock warrants or even on modern police tactics, as that's a far too complicated issue to resolve relative to gun companies and their desire to sell as many guns as possible. And quite frankly, trying to tie this to actual police work is not helpful, because LEO's face a lot of horrible things in their lives, and nobody is trying to deny them the tools to be successful. Rather, people are trying to point out that the marketing of these tools is creating as much potential for conflict due to the aggressiveness of that marketing; and that ad is a good example of how the marketing is overly aggressive and pushes the boundaries of civil discourse for people who view that and get a chubbie thinking about breaking down someone's door.

We have an entire political class that thinks Kevlar and fatigues are acceptable wear in public. I voted behind a dude in full uniform, sporting a 3%'er badge in 2016. Oath Keepers tried to overthrow our Gov't. When Obama got elected, I was at the Prickly Pear shooting range and the guy next to me with a rack full of AR's & other "black" rifles looked at me and said "I ain't doing nothing that n#$@#$ tells me." That's what Ryan is getting at. When Moses (Charleton Heston) stands up and proclaims that they can take his guns from his cold dead hands, we no longer are able to have a reasonable discussion about how to solve a major health issue in the US, but we turn it into petty politics that drag us down.
 
406dn said:
Now you are pissing on our leg and telling us it's raining. EVERYONE released on bail, In all of the listed cities, in every case...really?
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Sorry, I mistook you talking about "the culture" as meaning a group.

Now we are talking specifics?
 
How come it's only Democrats can use the n#$@#$ word?

I'm outraged at Heston's monopoly on hyperbole. Assuming his hand is still full.
 
noharleyyet said:
How come it's only Democrats can use the n#$@#$ word?
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Sadly, I've heard more than one non Democrat use the word.

My major hobby is horseback field trialling. Its center of gravity is the SE portion of the US. More than once I've heard the n word said shamelessly. Once, a man I consider a friend, used it. I called him on it. He replied that I could not understand since Montana is overwhelmingly white. I'd argue it is he who needs to reconsider his mindset.
 
406dn said:
Sadly, I've heard more than one non Democrat use the word.

My major hobby is horseback field trialling. Its center of gravity is the SE portion of the US. More than once I've heard the n word said shamelessly. Once, a man I consider a friend, used it. I called him on it. He replied that I could not understand since Montana is overwhelmingly white. I'd argue it is he who needs to reconsider his mindset.
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I meant, without chastisement...
 
JLS said:
It’s hard for me to find the logic in allowing private sales of firearms without an NCIS check.
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Agree. Specifically to ensure the person is a law abiding citizen, lawful to possess a firearm. Speaking for myself, as a firm believer in our 2A, I want to ensure the 2A is enforced as SCOTUS has ruled.

Separate note: I believe the most challenging aspect of the entire REAL issue is a person's medical privacy vs the purchase of a firearm. To bridge this... I don't know if it's possible. Though for me, I believe this is the core foundation towards a "safer" America with respect to the firearm ownership, per our Bill of Rights. If, somehow, that first hurdle is overcome... what "mental capacity" is defined as lawful to own/possess a firearm? example: Military PTSD is a significant issue! Though I know countless American Soldiers I would not hesitate for a fraction of a second, handing a firearm to for hunting, defense of self or others, or to present in protest of our 2A. Also, is the pandora's box opened to the political theatrics to define any person must pass a 1200 question psychiatric evaluation, to find him/herself qualified to enjoy our Second Amendment "Right"?
 
Ben Lamb said:
Charles,

I agree with your first paragraph.

Pertaining to your second & third paragraphs, we banned tobacco & hard alcohol adverts on television for a variety of reasons, including the marketing to kids. The United States Gov't could ban this kind of activity easily if they wanted. And while I find those gun ads distasteful, I don't think they should be banned. Rather, I think that marketing companies & their clients should hold themselves to a higher standard. I'm not commenting on the validity of no knock warrants or even on modern police tactics, as that's a far too complicated issue to resolve relative to gun companies and their desire to sell as many guns as possible. And quite frankly, trying to tie this to actual police work is not helpful, because LEO's face a lot of horrible things in their lives, and nobody is trying to deny them the tools to be successful. Rather, people are trying to point out that the marketing of these tools is creating as much potential for conflict due to the aggressiveness of that marketing; and that ad is a good example of how the marketing is overly aggressive and pushes the boundaries of civil discourse for people who view that and get a chubbie thinking about breaking down someone's door.

We have an entire political class that thinks Kevlar and fatigues are acceptable wear in public. I voted behind a dude in full uniform, sporting a 3%'er badge in 2016. Oath Keepers tried to overthrow our Gov't. When Obama got elected, I was at the Prickly Pear shooting range and the guy next to me with a rack full of AR's & other "black" rifles looked at me and said "I ain't doing nothing that n#$@#$ tells me." That's what Ryan is getting at. When Moses (Charleton Heston) stands up and proclaims that they can take his guns from his cold dead hands, we no longer are able to have a reasonable discussion about how to solve a major health issue in the US, but we turn it into petty politics that drag us down.
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You know, I thought about those companies marketing while I watch the Superbowl halftime show. Snoop only had 2 murder charges. 50 cent literally got shot in the face selling poison to his own neighborhood, Dre has numerous domestic violence with a gun charges.(Mary J looks incredible for 51).

My thought was yeah, obviously it's a gun company problem
 
hossblur said:
You know, I thought about those companies marketing while I watch the Superbowl halftime show. Snoop only had 2 murder charges. 50 cent literally got shot in the face selling poison to his own neighborhood, Dre has numerous domestic violence with a gun charges.(Mary J looks incredible for 51).

My thought was yeah, obviously it's a gun company problem
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See post #297

Are you upset that Snoop found a way out of that life, or that he was part of the society that had few choices? Same with 50 Cent. I can't answer for Dre, but I'm sure being a product of that environment is part of it, just like being broke in rural red America is part of the reason why gun violence is higher on a per capita basis in deep red states.

Broad generalities and handpicked examples are two sides of the same coin.
 
hossblur said:
You didn't bother reading that did you?

"they shoot straight and kill. You may need one only once in your lifetime......"

Cute little girl with her dolly laying in bed with a loaded pistol.

Ahh yes, a gentler, kinder time😳😳😳
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Your reading compression is poor. That ad says "these aren't toys, they are made to kill." And that ad isn't geared towards a toddler, it's geared towards parents. The Franchi Ad is about being Johnny Badass in the blind and when you need to go kill people. Both are less than ideal, but the Iver Johnson ad isn't about being tough & terrible, it's about protecting your family.
 
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