Red Montana

[Hem]

So Montana has a crappy school system compared to what?....other states that value public education more and therefore invest more to the system.
Our teachers generally don't make a sustainable living. Facilities need to be expanded and upgraded...quite evident with the recent surge of refugees. Allowing our students to keep pace in a rapidly evolving technological world costs money...money spending which makes sense not only for our kids but the future of our country. By valuing education maybe our country could become more self sustainable.
Vouchers? Sounds like food stamps, or a litany of other social programs which politicians like Gianforte ardently oppose.
Montana has a great foundation as 406 commented. My wife, a public school teacher, helps all of her kids prepare for the next phase of their life. Some have gone off to Ivy league schools , many to state colleges.
Public education plays a vital role and should be better supported in Montana plain and simple. The system is in place, no sane reason to torpedo it an effort to free up money.

 

[longbow51]

A couple of thoughts.

First, I didn't expect Daines to win with a 10% margin. I suspect the reason had nothing to do with Montana, but with national issues; Pelosi and her stalling on Covid relief, threats of court packing, defund police, outward cries for socialism. And, rioting, burning, looting, with courts doing little to punish the offenders to such an extent that Federal charges had to be brought, but ever willing to punish victims who dared defend themselves (think St. Louis).

So, Bullock's goose was cooked when he supported AR bans on national TV, and decided we had to remodel the standard factory magazines of semi-auto pistols, increasingly popular among women as self-protection.

As far as GG as governor, we'll have to wait and see. He knows that we hold hunting and fishing dear, and doubt he will rock the boat, but we'll see. For the record, I wanted Tim Fox.

 

[BigHornRam]

I think Bullock's goose was cooked when he went to New York to listen to what Schumer had to offer him.

Bullock announces run for Montana Senate seat

Montana Gov. Steve Bullock (D) formally announced his 2020 Senate run on Monday, tweeting his first campaign ad.“I’ve always fought for the people of Montana. Together, we expanded health car…

thehill.com

 

[BigHornRam]

Correction. Schumer came to Montana. Bullock went to Washington.

Schumer meets with Bullock as Montana filing deadline for Senate seat nears

Democrats are eager to convince the former presidential candidate to change his mind and run for the Senate.

www.politico.com

 

[JT88]

Correction. Schumer came to Montana. Bullock went to Washington.

Schumer meets with Bullock as Montana filing deadline for Senate seat nears

Democrats are eager to convince the former presidential candidate to change his mind and run for the Senate.

www.politico.com

The devil was also there in their meeting.

 

[BigHornRam]

The devil was also there in their meeting.

Who would that be, Bloomberg?

Brent Budowsky: Bloomberg should give $1 billion to Democrats

Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg should take one of the greatest pro-democracy actions in the history of democracy and donate $1 billion to register Democratic voters

thehill.com

"Such an enormous donation would give an additional boost to candidate recruiting. With control of both houses of Congress so vital to the future of the nation, party leaders and activists should go all-out to draft candidates such as Steve Bullock in Montana and Stacey Abrams in Georgia to run in vital and winnable Senate elections."

 

[BWALKER77]

I'm not sure how you would know my background.

Insinuating another person's ignorance is hardly a convincing argument. Have a good one.

I did assume you had no expiereance with other states schools. Do you? If you do not, you are arguing from a position ignorance.
I'm not insinuating you are a dumb bell mind you.

 

[BWALKER77]

A couple of thoughts.

First, I didn't expect Daines to win with a 10% margin. I suspect the reason had nothing to do with Montana, but with national issues; Pelosi and her stalling on Covid relief, threats of court packing, defund police, outward cries for socialism. And, rioting, burning, looting, with courts doing little to punish the offenders to such an extent that Federal charges had to be brought, but ever willing to punish victims who dared defend themselves (think St. Louis).

So, Bullock's goose was cooked when he supported AR bans on national TV, and decided we had to remodel the standard factory magazines of semi-auto pistols, increasingly popular among women as self-protection.

As far as GG as governor, we'll have to wait and see. He knows that we hold hunting and fishing dear, and doubt he will rock the boat, but we'll see. For the record, I wanted Tim Fox.

Daines opponent was from Berkeley, CA. That's a up hill battle in a conservative state.

 

[BWALKER77]

A couple of thoughts.

First, I didn't expect Daines to win with a 10% margin. I suspect the reason had nothing to do with Montana, but with national issues; Pelosi and her stalling on Covid relief, threats of court packing, defund police, outward cries for socialism. And, rioting, burning, looting, with courts doing little to punish the offenders to such an extent that Federal charges had to be brought, but ever willing to punish victims who dared defend themselves (think St. Louis).

So, Bullock's goose was cooked when he supported AR bans on national TV, and decided we had to remodel the standard factory magazines of semi-auto pistols, increasingly popular among women as self-protection.

As far as GG as governor, we'll have to wait and see. He knows that we hold hunting and fishing dear, and doubt he will rock the boat, but we'll see. For the record, I wanted Tim Fox.

That's certainly the Democrat point of view. Throw more money at the problem. I'm not convinced its funding, but it very well could be.
I do think that one of the most important things when it comes to results from schools is the parents. I could be wrong, but I do not believe that education is a high priority for many in this state.

 

[BigHornRam]

Daines opponent was from Berkeley, CA. That's a up hill battle in a conservative state.

Daines opponent was Bullock. You must be confused.

 

[Nemont]

Daines opponent was Bullock. You must be confused.

I was going to point that out too but anyway

 

[406dn]

I did assume you had no expiereance with other states schools. Do you? If you do not, you are arguing from a position ignorance.
I'm not insinuating you are a dumb bell mind you.

You do know what happens when you assume, I assume.

 

[MTGomer]

Bullock said over and over that he had no interest in being a Senator.

Hell of a campaign strategy.

 

[BigHornRam]

Bullock said over and over that he had no interest in being a Senator.

Hell of a campaign strategy.

Schumer made him an offer he couldn't refuse.....

 

[longbow51]

I admit my experience with Montana schools is dated, but it seems to me that our kids go to all kinds of fancy colleges and universities with great scholarships. Our daughter did, as did many of her colleagues, to the Naval Academy, West Point, Notre Dame and Harvard and any number of small but elite colleges. Not that Harvard is much of an endorsement these days. And my VP's kids went to elite schools, and that was 5 years ago. And yeah, they went to public schools. So hate to be a contrarian, but our kids are doing just fine.

And, btw, our granddaughter, a military brat, found that New York schools were a disaster with no goals, no rigor in the curriculum, and no parental involvement, and Augusta, Georgia schools were excellent and very demanding. Now in Manhattan, Kansas (Ft. Riley) and again, excellent schools.

 

[Straight Arrow]

I admit my experience with Montana schools is dated, but it seems to me that our kids go to all kinds of fancy colleges and universities with great scholarships. Our daughter did, as did many of her colleagues, to the Naval Academy, West Point, Notre Dame and Harvard and any number of small but elite colleges. Not that Harvard is much of an endorsement these days. And my VP's kids went to elite schools, and that was 5 years ago. And yeah, they went to public schools. So hate to be a contrarian, but our kids are doing just fine.

And, btw, our granddaughter, a military brat, found that New York schools were a disaster with no goals, no rigor in the curriculum, and no parental involvement, and Augusta, Georgia schools were excellent and very demanding. Now in Manhattan, Kansas (Ft. Riley) and again, excellent schools.

More recent SAT and other standardized testing, relative accreditation standards, stellar performance of Montana students in nationally recognized challenging university programs, in testing and performance in military, scholarship awards, as well as other nationally recognized data continue to affirm your assertion regarding Montana's great public education system.
BWALKER77 and whatever anecdotal information he submits is way off base here with respect to Montana public education.

 

[BWALKER77]

Daines opponent was Bullock. You must be confused.

Mind fart on my part. I was thinking the Rosendale/William's race.

 

[BWALKER77]

So Montana has a crappy school system compared to what?....other states that value public education more and therefore invest more to the system.
Our teachers generally don't make a sustainable living. Facilities need to be expanded and upgraded...quite evident with the recent surge of refugees. Allowing our students to keep pace in a rapidly evolving technological world costs money...money spending which makes sense not only for our kids but the future of our country. By valuing education maybe our country could become more self sustainable.
Vouchers? Sounds like food stamps, or a litany of other social programs which politicians like Gianforte ardently oppose.
Montana has a great foundation as 406 commented. My wife, a public school teacher, helps all of her kids prepare for the next phase of their life. Some have gone off to Ivy league schools , many to state colleges.
Public education plays a vital role and should be better supported in Montana plain and simple. The system is in place, no sane reason to torpedo it an effort to free up money.

Billings three public schools average ACT score is 19.56. The district we moved from average is 25. Billings Central, which is the highest ranked private school in the state has an average of 27. So at least it can be said that Billings public schools are not so hot.
On a state wide basis the average is 20 for MT and 24.4 for the state we moved from.

 

[BWALKER77]

More recent SAT and other standardized testing, relative accreditation standards, stellar performance of Montana students in nationally recognized challenging university programs, in testing and performance in military, scholarship awards, as well as other nationally recognized data continue to affirm your assertion regarding Montana's great public education system.
BWALKER77 and whatever anecdotal information he submits is way off base here with respect to Montana public education.

ACT scores for the state are anything but stellar. So, no I am not off base.

 

[MTGomer]

If the teachers union is against it, it’s probably good for kids.