Montana season structure proposal 2.0

[WanderWoman]

It’s been studied for mule deer. I believe in utah or Wyoming. Bumps up buck to doe for about a year than trends back where you started. I will see if I can dig up the studies.

Edit: jeff short studied this

Antler Point Restrictions with Wyo Bio Jeff Short

Jeff Short is an expert on Antler Point Restrictions effectiveness in several western states. He explains how and when they help mule deer

www.rokslide.com

That was a great podcast episode about all sorts of seasons and social aspects.

 

[idelkslayer]

That was a great podcast episode about all sorts of seasons and social aspects.

The whole series of podcast that Robby did with biologists from Idaho, Wyoming, Utah and Colorado should be mandatory listening for every hunter before they comment on or push for change to season structures. A lot of old myths and bad ideas are discussed and debunked in those podcasts.

Here is some more reading on Antler-point-restrictions for anyone interested:

https://fwp.mt.gov/binaries/content/assets/fwp/commission/2021/aug-20/wildlife/1f---anter-point-restrictions--review-by-wy-gfd.pdf

 

[rogerthat]

The whole series of podcast that Robby did with biologists from Idaho, Wyoming, Utah and Colorado should be mandatory listening for every hunter before they comment on or push for change to season structures. A lot of old myths and bad ideas are discussed and debunked in those podcasts.

Here is some more reading on Antler-point-restrictions for anyone interested:

https://fwp.mt.gov/binaries/content/assets/fwp/commission/2021/aug-20/wildlife/1f---anter-point-restrictions--review-by-wy-gfd.pdf

I totally agree but also always have your eyes wide open. Robbie is a big buck hunter that likes to hunt so he isn’t agenda-less. I listen to every podcast with scientists and have learned a lot

 

[Coule stalker]

Buck harvest has little to no appreciable effect on population, doe harvest does that. Maybe you mean buck to doe ratio? Or more bucks in general?

I totally agree about the doe harvest. FWP allowed the does to get absolutely slaughtered for years, 6 otc md B tags in addition to an A tag definitely didn’t help sustain numbers, throw in a couple of nasty winters into the mix and you have a visually noticeable numbers decline in just a couple seasons. All I was saying is that we are finally discouraging excessive doe harvest, what would it hurt to let the younger bucks have a chance at a couple years of helping them does put fawns on the ground.

 

[Eric Albus]

This ^

Then try to account for the unaccountable, how many buck deer left 6&7 with doe tags or no tags at 2:30 in the morning.

 

[Eric Albus]

I received a phone call from a NR yesterday who came to R6 to hunt mule deer, and he asked, “where can I find one? There were lots of deer in 2021, whats the deal?”
I replied, call R6 headquarters and ask.

 

[huntin24/7]

I received a phone call from a NR yesterday who came to R6 to hunt mule deer, and he asked, “where can I find one? There were lots of deer in 2021, whats the deal?”
I replied, call R6 headquarters and ask.

2021 is about the time I noticed the huge influx in NE region 6 as well. There are bma’s and state land I’ve been hunting for 16 years where I’d see 15-30+ deer each time hiking until 3-4 years ago. Average now is 1-5 deer with maybe one small buck on those same spots.

 

[mukbowhunt]

We found a small forky in region 6 to bring back to Washington! Wait make that region 2 and not a forky. He was with 3 does on November 5th. Great way to spend Election Day.

 

[Forkyfinder]

We found a small forky in region 6 to bring back to Washington! Wait make that region 2 and not a forky. He was with 3 does on November 5th. Great way to spend Election Day.

congrats

 

[Forkyfinder]

Are there any western states that dont return tags?

 

[sclancy27]

Are there any western states that dont return tags?

WY is pretty tough