Podcast on Montana Mule Deer ideas

[Rie Bread]

My biggest fear of LE is that FWP would set the quotas so high that LE would really be just choose your unit.

For example look at the Bridger unit. Not a good indicator

 

[sclancy27]

For example look at the Bridger unit. Not a good indicator

How bout look at any of the LE units.

 

[Speeddmn]

Listened to this on the drive back from Gillette to Helena. Well this one and a couple others. I’m 100% on board that there needs to be a change. Both resident and non resident side. A complete revamp isnt needed but some tweaks. I liked all the proposals mentioned. I did think about the mandatory reporting and I know it would be helpful. I wondered if there would be a way to tie it into the system where if you do not report by xx date/time frame you wouldn’t be eligible to apply for the following season. Might be a giant PITA for some, but once you’re used to it, it would be second nature.

Just spitballing here.

 

[Shed God]

Rie bread. LE is the answer. Because if they actually do all there bullshit mandatory reporting, counts ect they limit the $*)Q!#@$ tags.

LE units are a joke in mt because they give out way too many tags for what is actually there. Back in the day it wasn't so. Because less tags, and everyone is a professional hunter today.

Ya a joke most shit u c is primo private on all social media. Few of us left though. Lol

 

[gonhunting247]

I listened on the way to my late AZ elk hunt. Thanks for posting.

 

[Shed God]

Do podcast on eating your tag. 150 plus. Unless u have a LE tag. Teach dicipline. Kill muley does why. Kill whiteys.

 

[Forkyfinder]

Being devils advocate - what do you say, @Gerald Martin to someone who says that this gives private landowners, especially ones who outfits elk in western montana, a big advantage? If all of the mountains in October are full of mule deer hunters - wouldnt a lot of bull elk get pushed onto private in october when they couldnt be shot?

Do you have numbers/data/insight to counter that concern? Thus far - thats about the only legitmate piece of critical feedback ive seen about the proposal.

 

[Gerald Martin]

Being devils advocate - what do you say, @Gerald Martin to someone who says that this gives private landowners, especially ones who outfits elk in western montana, a big advantage? If all of the mountains in October are full of mule deer hunters - wouldnt a lot of bull elk get pushed onto private in october when they couldnt be shot?

Do you have numbers/data/insight to counter that concern? Thus far - thats about the only legitmate piece of critical feedback ive seen about the proposal.

Currently archery season pressure already pushes a lot of bulls onto private in some locales. I doubt we’re going to see a huge amount of mule deer hunters targeting mule deer in western regions due to low deer densities.

Something else to consider is that there’s going to be an early October cow elk season valid only on private land running concurrent with mule deer season. If any elk movement occurs because of pressure, I think they’ll be going from private to public from cows getting shot, not the other way around.

 

[Schaaf]

Being devils advocate - what do you say, @Gerald Martin to someone who says that this gives private landowners, especially ones who outfits elk in western montana, a big advantage? If all of the mountains in October are full of mule deer hunters - wouldnt a lot of bull elk get pushed onto private in october when they couldnt be shot?

Do you have numbers/data/insight to counter that concern? Thus far - thats about the only legitmate piece of critical feedback ive seen about the proposal.

I'm unaware of how to provide data regarding that but there are studies out there that show archery hunting does more to displace elk than other seasons. I find it hard to believe the argument that 6 weeks of archery hunting elk with a few day gap before 5 weeks of rifle hunting does less to displace elk than a 4 week gap of not hunting the species with people on the landscape providing indirect pressure hunting another species.

It's anecdotal but in other states I've hunted that have periods of time in October that are open only for mule deer, I've been able to watch the same group of elk for days at a time. Yes I would "pressure" them occasionally, but inadvertently pressuring them through indirect pressure is vastly different than hunting them in my opinion.