Land management agency impact stories...

[Foxtrot1]

Such are the consequences of a government that has been on a spending and money printing spree for over 2 decades. There's no way to reign it in without pain. Americans are soft and don't have the resiliency and fortitude to suck it up. I well remember all the sad stories that were told here about the Keystone Pipeline workers. At least we are consistent.

You mean like how this administration is doing this in the name of "fiscal responsibility" all while proposing to increase spending by $380 billion?

 

[BuzzH]

Such are the consequences of a government that has been on a spending and money printing spree for over 2 decades. There's no way to reign it in without pain. Americans are soft and don't have the resiliency and fortitude to suck it up. I well remember all the sad stories that were told here about the Keystone Pipeline workers. At least we are consistent.

Take it to another thread...or start another one. Nothing in your post is relevant or wanted in this one.

 

[Montana_Wanderer]

Such are the consequences of a government that has been on a spending and money printing spree for over 2 decades. There's no way to reign it in without pain. Americans are soft and don't have the resiliency and fortitude to suck it up. I well remember all the sad stories that were told here about the Keystone Pipeline workers. At least we are consistent.

Breaking Buzz's rule here, but there are right ways to do things and wrong ways to do things. Seems pretty obvious the way this is being handled the wrong way.

 

[Justabirdwatcher]

These park rangers oversaw Florida’s only manatee refuge. Then they were fired.

The Trump administration’s sweeping cuts to the federal workforce are impacting the only national refuge created specifically for threatened manatees.

www.tampabay.com

 

[Bluffgruff]

Ug.

 

[BuzzH]

Nor was your post. Like it or not, discussions drift. Yes it's sad when people lose jobs. My 4 decades as a .gov employee tell me that there are no agencies that can't bear a 10-15 % cut. For the USFS probationary employees who got canned, they'll have to drive around scouting on their own dime.

Hey clown, enough ..

 

[BuzzH]

Unfortunately the opposition party would not let the president move slowly and methodically. It would give them time to run interference on everything he tried to accomplish. They forced this tactic.

I hope that's your last post...

 

[INMT]

For the USFS probationary employees who got canned, they'll have to drive around scouting on their own dime.

One of the more ignorant statements I’ve seen on here. And more than alarming as you are a self proclaimed government employee that is to scared to post where you live on your profile.

Would you be comfortable sharing that sentiment sitting in a room with recently terminated employees instead of on your keyboard?

 

[dranrab]

Since Buzz is running off track, I'll get us back on with a relevant story. I just retired from a .gov job. My vacancy will not likely be filled. There were only 10 of us across the US that did my job. I got a text from one of those today. He's a probationary employee who got a termination letter. It sucks for him, because the jobs are some of the most coveted in our agency. Highly independent, and if you don't want to, you don't have to do anything at all. It makes good business sense to eliminate the entire program. I am not saying that good doesn't come from the work the program does, but the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

 

[Bonasababy]

I’m sensing a bit of that as well.

I certainly feel for every person who lost their job, and there is a TON to not like about what is going on.

Right now, the federal workforce has the moral high ground. The would be wise to not overplay that hand.

Seems to me that some believe the actions are justified and have value....but they don't provide any info other than their personal gripes/good riddance takes. If there was more balance...which I freely admit I feel is impossible as the actions as implemented cant be justified...I think the point would be more valid .

 

[INMT]

Since Buzz is running off track, I'll get us back on with a relevant story. I just retired from a .gov job. My vacancy will not likely be filled. There were only 10 of us across the US that did my job. I got a text from one of those today. He's a probationary employee who got a termination letter. It sucks for him, because the jobs are some of the most coveted in our agency. Highly independent, and if you don't want to, you don't have to do anything at all. It makes good business sense to eliminate the entire program. I am not saying that good doesn't come from the work the program does, but the justice isn't worth the squeeze.

That response is relevant. What was your job?

 

[dranrab]

That response is relevant. What was your job?

I'll start a different thread in deference to Buzz's feelings.

 

[squirrel]

Someone once waxed eloquently that a recession is when your neighbour loses his job.

A depression is when you lose your job.

Recovery is when buzz... I forget the rest, it was probably insensitive anyway.

 

[BuzzH]

^zero self control^

Stay on topic.

 

[Rie Bread]

Hey if you’re looking for a job I’m sure the feds will be hiring soon or well our public lands will face lots of closures. At least facilities will for sure be closed or full of poo

 

[Straight Arrow]

Since Buzz is running off track, I'll get us back on with a relevant story. I just retired from a .gov job. My vacancy will not likely be filled. There were only 10 of us across the US that did my job. I got a text from one of those today. He's a probationary employee who got a termination letter. It sucks for him, because the jobs are some of the most coveted in our agency. Highly independent, and if you don't want to, you don't have to do anything at all. It makes good business sense to eliminate the entire program. I am not saying that good doesn't come from the work the program does, but the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

It seems interesting lately that a number of government haters have recently been emboldened to jump on HT. But this guy takes the cake and eats it too as retiring from government service after four decades, then implying that his work was not worthwhile ... "juice isn't worth the squeeze". 'Hope shaving isn't needed in retirement as looking in the mirror might be difficult.

Although many may agree that agencies could sustain a 10 percent cut, yet this process and the speed of which it is implemented is poor. I predict it will result in untold unintended very expensive consequences, with little to no improvement in efficiency.

 

[Rie Bread]

I worked seasonally for 6 years for the national parks. Lots of top notch seasonal employees who’s jobs were very unique and the park services was lucky to have people to fill such niche positions. But let’s be real the park service doesn’t recognize these niche roles seriously.

I got laid off in covid and was told tough luck, it happens….blah blah blah. Got 72 hours to move out.

I volunteered in utilities to keep my housing for my new born and wife in our luxury travel trailer that NPS so gracefully let us park. No option as a season employee to even have your wife and kid live with you! I loved hear how “ lucky” we were to “find a loop hole” to live as a family in the NPS system as a seasonal…. In a 17ft travel trailer.

Anyway the dangly cherry for permanent was always just outta reach. So I applied elsewhere in the private sector got a good job, bought a home and moved states. Now a city worker.

I feel for the workers especially if in a rural area where it’s the best job around

 

[INMT]

Since Buzz is running off track, I'll get us back on with a relevant story. I just retired from a .gov job. My vacancy will not likely be filled. There were only 10 of us across the US that did my job. I got a text from one of those today. He's a probationary employee who got a termination letter. It sucks for him, because the jobs are some of the most coveted in our agency. Highly independent, and if you don't want to, you don't have to do anything at all. It makes good business sense to eliminate the entire program. I am not saying that good doesn't come from the work the program does, but the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

Really curious what your job was for decades that is highly coveted but not worth keeping.

 

[dranrab]

Really curious what your job was for decades that is highly coveted but not worth keeping.

I held 3 different CG civilian Jobs. My first was as a GS-11 SAR controller. Those jobs can't really go away. My second was as a GS-12 Commercial Fishing Vessel Program Specialist. I conducted courtesy safety checks on commercial fishing vessels and served as a safety consultant for them. That program went through an expansion while I was in it. I strongly suggested that they not expand it as many members of the team were averaging less than one inspection per week. I even offered to cover two areas to save them money. They declined. That program could easily be done away with.

My last job was as a GS-13 Recreational Boating Safety Program Manager for the Coast Guard's 26 state 8th District. For lack of a better way to describe it, that job was a marketing job. I marketed boating safety though a variety of mechanisms. It's the kind of job where work rarely comes looking for you. You have to find meaningful things to do. Many of my peers were content to do just enough to get by. Even though the last two years I was in the job we reduced fatalities nationally and my District saw a greater percentage reduction than the others, it's still a program that could be scrapped.

 

[NDGuy]

Probably more stories to come.