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[shines@times]

Do any of you adjust your backpacking gear differently given the low success rate?
If you know you may spend weeks hunting and never need to haul a load, it would seem more beneficial to switch to a pack that is much lighter even if its load-hauling capabilities are inferior. Then if you get one down, leave camp, haul out what you can, and grab a better frame or pack at the truck.

That's not a bad strategy in my opinion, especially for a solo hunter. Unless one has shot the animal to scavenger tidbit ribbons, the lone hunter who can pack out head, cape, boned meat and camp and hunting gear in a single backpack load is as rare of an animal as is a 40" ram in the unlimited units.

However, if one was to "spend weeks hunting" at a single go during a period when and where the quota went unfilled, it would still require a fairly capacious and stoutly-built pack just to haul so much gear and provisions.

 

[shines@times]

I rarely listen to podcasts, but knew this would be a good listen about sheep in unlimited areas. Interview with Tim Shinabarger.

Thanks for that recommendation Greenhorn. I was nearly a year into not recovering from a debilitating injury that had me quite depressed with contemplating the prospect of perhaps never being able to get into the harness again when you posted it. Wallowing in that misery kept me away from the MT Unlimited thread almost as much as the injury kept me out of the woods and mountains.

With another six months elapsed, I can now at least get a ruck onto my back again. I finished listening to Tim Shinabarger's two hours with Peter Panda just a few minutes ago. It was well worth the time! I especially appreciated the acknowledgement and due credit that both the interviewer and guest extended to Shawn Stewart for the continuing opportunity that Montana's (sadly) unique Unlimited Sheep hunting units provide working-class souls who have a passion for pursuing the high country monarchs. In the last couple minutes of the interview, Tim credited the opportunity to buy a tag and hunt wild sheep more than once in a lifetime in the UL units with his becoming not only a sheep hunter, but a wild sheep hunting and conservation advocate. That's a pretty compelling endorsement of the program. Like Tim, I hope the concept not only endures, but inspires the creation of similar programs elsewhere.

Thanks again for bringing the podcast to my attention.

 

[rogerthat]

FYI, anyone considering going up "that road" in 500, another bridge washed out further down the canyon. We where able to make it out over the bridge last night, which was sketchy AF, but we didn't die.
Custer/Gallatin NF is saying the road is closed this morning.
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You crossed that with a vehicle when it looked like that?

 

[Cav1]

I came so close to buying the Wilsall Volunteer Fire Department's old M35 6x6 Deuce-and-a-Half just so I could drive that damn road it's not funny.

 

[Wind Gypsy]

So Peter Panda had a podcast covering how doable the unlimiteds are and also one pimping duckworth wool.. some guys..

 

[rogerthat]

So Peter Panda had a podcast covering how doable the unlimiteds are and also one pimping duckworth wool.. some guys..

Anyone that’s buying duckworth is not for wild sheep. Pete is a moron

 

[winmag]

Apparently your soul is a small price to pay for some likes and follows. Who knew?

 

[bigsky2]

Anyone that’s buying duckworth is not for wild sheep. Pete is a moron

Never seen anyone get off on killing stuff as much as that guy.

 

[EYJONAS!]

He did another podcast on it or is this one from earlier?

 

[Wind Gypsy]

He did another podcast on it or is this one from earlier?

The earlier one with Shinabarger, it was brought up again recently in this thread so it reminded me of that duo of podcasts that dont seem to be in the best interests of MT sheep hunters.

 

[TheTone]

Never seen anyone get off on killing stuff as much as that guy.

Cam Hanes?

 

[Southern Elk]

Cam Hanes?

Ted Nugent

 

[EYJONAS!]

The earlier one with Shinabarger, it was brought up again recently in this thread so it reminded me of that duo of podcasts that dont seem to be in the best interests of MT sheep hunters.

I could listen to Tim's stories on repeat.

Its interesting that more people hunted the unlimited units in the 70s and 80s compared to today. Even with all the talk, the online information, podcasts, social media or even recently videos on youtube.

Now obviously that can change but the amount of participation really hasn't followed the same trends as other western hunting adventures.

I just hope that things maintain and these opportunities continue to live on for future generations. It's pretty unique to say the least. There needs to be more opportunities though..... maybe even from other states.

 

[Wildabeest]

I could listen to Tim's stories on repeat.

Its interesting that more people hunted the unlimited units in the 70s and 80s compared to today. Even with all the talk, the online information, podcasts, social media or even recently videos on youtube.

Now obviously that can change but the amount of participation really hasn't followed the same trends as other western hunting adventures.

I just hope that things maintain and these opportunities continue to live on for future generations. It's pretty unique to say the least. There needs to be more opportunities though..... maybe even from other states.

That’s because all of that coverage lets them see what they are really getting into. It ain’t for the faint of heart.

 

[rogerthat]

That’s because all of that coverage lets them see what they are really getting into. It ain’t for the faint of heart.

And grizzly bear density continues to increase which despite minimal encounters weighs heavy on my mind at all times.

 

[YoungGun]

I could listen to Tim's stories on repeat.

Its interesting that more people hunted the unlimited units in the 70s and 80s compared to today. Even with all the talk, the online information, podcasts, social media or even recently videos on youtube.

Now obviously that can change but the amount of participation really hasn't followed the same trends as other western hunting adventures.

I just hope that things maintain and these opportunities continue to live on for future generations. It's pretty unique to say the least. There needs to be more opportunities though..... maybe even from other states.

There was no 7 year wait then, and the Spanish Peaks were unlimited. I think it is more appropriate to look at the last 20 years- the numbers have sky rocketed, and the actual participation versus just having a tag in the pocket has gone much higher.

 

[MTTW]

There was no 7 year wait then, and the Spanish Peaks were unlimited. I think it is more appropriate to look at the last 20 years- the numbers have sky rocketed, and the actual participation versus just having a tag in the pocket has gone much higher.

Wasn't 302 also unlimited as well? Same with the north half of 300 which is now 304.

 

[BAKPAKR]

Congrats to your hunting friend @theat that's pretty awesome. Hope to hear the story of it someday.

Can't wait to see what the future holds for this season. More stories I hope! Keep grinding guys!

Sounds like Lamb Lane might have produced in 303 yesterday or the day before. Can't wait to see what that one is.

303 is pending closure now.

 

[EYJONAS!]

There was no 7 year wait then, and the Spanish Peaks were unlimited. I think it is more appropriate to look at the last 20 years- the numbers have sky rocketed, and the actual participation versus just having a tag in the pocket has gone much higher.

Could be, I guess I'm not fully understanding the difference.

But I see your point. Probably also important to note that 501 and 502 were a combined unit as well. Even still tag numbers were right around high 80s to 100 plus. Even with the 301 and 302 districts in the ul category right?

 

[YoungGun]

Could be, I guess I'm not fully understanding the difference.

But I see your point. Probably also important to note that 501 and 502 were a combined unit as well. Even still tag numbers were right around high 80s to 100 plus. Even with the 301 and 302 districts in the ul category right?

I believe so- I just think in the last decade or so there's a lot less casual hunters that pick up the tag "just in case", and a lot more dedicated folks out there. And, just as with all hunting, we've all become a lot more effective at killing the animals we're hunting, UL rams no exception. It wasn't that long ago most of these units wouldn't close until late, if at all. That's changed drastically in the last 5 years. I love a good Shinabarger story, and there's no doubt he's put himself on his rams through effort, hard earned knowledge that has led to an intimate knowledge of the Beartooths, and his skills as a hunter. I just cringe to think that Podcasts will be followed with a video someday soon. We will love these hunts to death.