Corona virus

[TheJason]

I know the general consensus on the thread regarding impacts on western hunting plans were largely negative, but I’m guessing this may very well have an affect on NR license sales. To what degree is the big wild card, but we’ve clearly seen the affects of economic downturns on NR license sales in the last couple of decades.

Idaho may well be having a flashback

 

[Sytes]

Oil and NR's: I don't know, from my perspective, fuel cost is a large factor for non-residents. I can cut a bill one third the value!
COVID-19 and NRs: I don't think a dramatic slow down for non-resident license will occur. Travel outside the US? Or to cities? I sure as hell wouldn't However to get to the mountains? Heck yeah!

 

[TheJason]

Cheap gas is irrelevant if you don’t have a job or have lost wages due to shutdowns.

 

[Sytes]

Non-resident license will be the least of the concerns if it leads to that significant an issue.

 

[noharleyyet]

I know the general consensus on the thread regarding impacts on western hunting plans were largely negative, but I’m guessing this may very well have an affect on NR license sales. To what degree is the big wild card, but we’ve clearly seen the affects of economic downturns on NR license sales in the last couple of decades.



Idaho may well be having a flashback

Yep

 

[TheJason]

Non-resident license will be the least of the concerns if it leads to that significant an issue.

It won’t be the least of concerns for state fish and game agencies.

 

[Trial153]

Italy: 97 more coronavirus deaths in one day: Live updates

 

[rmauch20]

if oil drops as low as they’re projecting I’m sure we will start to see rigs shut down, layoffs, and maybe even whole company is going under that could affect a lot of peoples hunting plans

 

[rmauch20]

Italy: 97 more coronavirus deaths in one day: Live updates

I wish they would put the average age of the deceased. Not trying to discount anybody’s life but if it’s 75+ it’s one thing if it’s a bunch of 20/30/40 year olds it’s kind of another thing.

 

[Nemont]

 

[Nameless Range]

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Last I saw, I think that is an older chart derived from the Chinese version of the CDC and the death rates may be slightly higher.

Either way, it makes me think of communities that are older demographically, and what that may mean for resource constraints on health care facilities in those places. Particularly given that a fair portion of those who survive still require hospitalization across many age cohorts.

 

[Trial153]

The chart only represents the death rate for a given age demographic. It makes no reference to infection rate for the demographic. You can have a lower death rate but a higher infection rate and yet more total deaths.

 

[Nemont]

The chart only represents the death rate for a given age demographic. It makes no reference to infection rate for the demographic. You can have a lower death rate but a higher infection rate and yet more total deaths.

I just posted a chart, I didn't make any claims about it. I don't know any more about corona virus than the average guy on the street.

I do know that my main company is going to pay for testing


https://www.bcbs.com/press-releases...nies-announce-coverage-of-coronavirus-testing

 

[BrentD]

The chart only represents the death rate for a given age demographic. It makes no reference to infection rate for the demographic. You can have a lower death rate but a higher infection rate and yet more total deaths.

Indeed, death rates and infection rates are two different, and somewhat opposing things.

If everyone that contracted the disease died within 5 minutes, there could be no epidemic due to failure to transmit. Most people seem to conflate transmission rates with mortality rates.

Bad idea. The math for epidemics can be pretty simple to first back of the envelope approximation. Sadly, no one in the press is making this obvious.

 

[Nemont]

Live Tracking of Corona Virus Stats

 

[MTGomer]

Corona Virus is a Godsend for trying to go to and get through lunch in a timely manner here in snowbirdville.

It’s like August around here.

 

[Doublecluck]

Live Tracking of Corona Virus Stats

Thats the one I’ve been following since this started, both death rates and serious cases have been dropping since it started. I think the grand question is, out of the 85 for every 100 infected with it that have mild symptoms how many More of those people exist unreported? It’s easy to count dead people and those in the hospital, but how many folks are walking around right now thinking they have a regular cold or flu? How many kids are passing it along with virtually no symptoms. I guess time will tell.

 

[1_pointer]

Wish I could prepay for about 1000 gallons of unleaded in May, then use it during hunting season.

Nothing a tank and pump couldn't fix...

 

[SAJ-99]

I absolutely think Putin is trying to take out a lot of US Shale.
I think historically I would say it’s a dumb move because once US oil dies prices will recover and then new companies with move in, but there is now a huge stigma surrounding OG on Wall Street (climate change, environmentally friendly portfolios, OG just not providing good returns) that I don’t know if there will be capital available to bring the industry back.

I think there is at least a possibility that we become an energy importer again.

Russia and SA both hate the US shale market and would kill it if they could. Both have a big cash cushion and it might allow them to drag this out. They can also print their own money. IF it does drag on, the US Government will own a lot of energy companies like we still own Fannie and Freddie.
We never stopped importing. The concept of Energy independence is a joke. You can’t be the largest producer in a commodity and be a price taker. To de dominant you have to be the lowest cost producer or the rest of the players will dictate your economics. US energy producers will keep getting jerked around but investors might not sign the checks as easily as before.

 

[Trial153]

The elephant in the room is that US shale isnt profitable, much like many green energy projects without heavy doeses of either overt or covert subsidies. The american taxpayer took it ...on the chin the last time prices tanked and they dumped all their debt.
To think it cant happen agian is silly, ad they still have the same partners in government. Privatized profits and subsidized losses, welcome to america.