Your eatin lead?

[noharleyyet]

Don't have a 300 WSM & don't reload yet. Agreed, they will be $$$$. Good ad copy though.

 

[snake river rufus]

Personally I'm not excited about an all copper bullet nor do I buy the "higher velocity" argument. Yes, all else being equal, lighter means faster and therefore flatter trajectories BUT light projectiles lose energy faster than heavier ones. And after all, its energy that kills game not feet per second.

I assume that bullet manufacturers will follow in the steps of the waterfowl crowd and we'll be seeing copper jacketed bismuth or tungsten-nickel bullets. Thoughts?

Bismouth is awfully brittle, I'm not sure a core of bismouth would stand up to the manufacturing process or if it would stay in one piece ridding down the bore. Tungsten alloys are awful hard unless they went with a sabot and sub-caliber bullet. Otherwise I think pressure would really spike and the rifling would not last long.

 

[noharleyyet]

Copper jacket & tungsten alloy core SRR. Take a look at the Guns & Ammo Jan. edition for a cutaway & write-up. Delrin tip, petal X expansion.

 

[snake river rufus]

I have been reading about the MR-X bullet for a month now. Barnes put a billet of tungsten in the base of the X bullet. They may get lucky with it and it is the same length as a conventinal bullet but it not what I gathered eric was talking about

 

[noharleyyet]

SRR, what do you think of Hornady's soft tipped spitzer ammo for tubed magazine lever guns?

 

[snake river rufus]

Lets move this to a shooting or reloading forum

 

[noharleyyet]

Too civil huh?

 

[snake river rufus]

No I just think we are hi-jacking this thread

 

[noharleyyet]

Gee, sorry Snake, my bad, it just seemed to me that more than 50% of the posts were of the bullet performance nature rather than the elemental. Please excuse my breach of protocol...and never mind on the answer.

 

[cjcj]

Copper performance? [nuff said]

I shot nice expansion.

 

[cjcj]

Try again?

hope this works?...It says I don`t have permission to post pic`s here? strange last year i posted some deer pics and stuff the same way [jpg.] Help ?

 

[schmalts]

eating lead, isnt that supposed to hurt your memory? I was told that um.. what were we talking about?
Hey did you guys hear about the dangers of lead poisoning from eating bullet area meat? Heard it was bad for memory part of the brain.

 

[snake river rufus]

I would need to see some evidence that lead in that form is digestable before I would worry about it.

 

[cjcj]

One more try [ copper expansion]

 

[cjcj]

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[snake river rufus]

The link dead ended for me

 

[Elkmtb]

The birds managed to maintain a strong population perhaps due to large sea mammals that washed upon shore, however, the settlement of the west, shooting, poisoning from lead and DDT, egg collecting, and general habitat degradation began to take a heavy toll. Between the mid- 1880s and 1924, there were scattered reports of condors in Arizona with the last sighting near Williams Arizona in 1924. By the late 1930s, all remaining condors were found only in California and by 1982, the total population had dwindled to just 22 birds. The only hope was to begin captive breeding of California condors and to initiate reintroduction of the species. Reintroduction of captive bred condors began in 1992 in California, and 1996 in Arizona.

Snake,
Lead [current] and DDT[past] are both a problem with the Condor..i may be wrong about the egg shells ? seems i read it somewhere ? can`t remember...if i see it i will post it for ya.

Have to call BS on condors dying because they ate gutpiles of animals shot by lead bullets. seems a lot far fetched to me. More likely poisened by lead from mines or somethings else, but from gutpiles- come on.

 

[Elkmtb]

How about depleated uranium? Lots of knockdown power, but not very edible. Maybe only good for dangerous game.

Saw a show the other day where a guy was hunting elephant. Seems the rules were you had to get close enough (less than 50 yards) for the elephant to get mad and charge you before you could shoot it in the forehead. I'll take proven lead for $500 bob.

 

[cjcj]

Have to call BS on condors dying because they ate gutpiles of animals shot by lead bullets. seems a lot far fetched to me. More likely poisened by lead from mines or somethings else, but from gutpiles- come on.

Elkmtb....Take it up with AZ Game & Fish....its not my study If you could read .. you would see that they started the all copper bullet project. hump

 

[snake river rufus]

Yes, we know the AZ game and fish did the study. Still wonder about the methodology of the study. Solid lead is not digestable from what I can learn so unless a bird has a gizzard to hold the bullet while digestive juices work,,,It is BS