Wyoming wallet alert

[CoHunter1991]

but let's be clear again - it is your opinion that they "probably" are the best way.

and other intelligent people also hold the opinion that they "probably" are not the best way.

let's just be sure to recognize that we're dealing with opinions here. not undeniable facts.

except the majority of people agree the NM system is trash

 

[Treeshark]

except the majority of people agree the NM system is trash

Actually, that’s not true.

There was a lot of misinformation that needed to be cleaned up (similar to this thread), but by the end of it the few objections were pretty much purely emotional.

 

[Matthew57]

Sure thing, internet stranger- I will get right on that for you.

Would you like for me to send you every one in existence, or would just the top 100 suffice?

Thanks pal, a top 10 would be just fine.

 

[Treeshark]

and other intelligent people also hold the opinion that they "probably" are not the best way.

Oh for sure, I realize that. Looking forward to discussing some of the reasons and hoping to do that on this thread.

The few objections thus far have been mainly emotional- from a practical standpoint, having landowner tags makes a lot of sense, making it a fairly easy position to defend.

 

[TOGIE]

Oh for sure, I realize that. Looking forward to discussing some of the reasons and hoping to do that on this thread.

The few objections thus far have been mainly emotional- from a practical standpoint, having landowner tags makes a lot of sense, making it a fairly easy position to defend.

you can continue to sidestep the reality that you simply hold an opinion - and i'm not saying it's an invalid or bad opinion.

but, it's why i'm getting better at no longer really engaging these discussions.

 

[Treeshark]

which is why i no longer really engage these discussions.

We are having a discussion on a hunting website, not submitting a paper to a journal- of course these are our opinions.

Are you sure that’s why you don’t engage?

 

[CoHunter1991]

Oh for sure, I realize that. Looking forward to discussing some of the reasons and hoping to do that on this thread.

The few objections thus far have been mainly emotional- from a practical standpoint, having landowner tags makes a lot of sense, making it a fairly easy position to defend.

We are having a discussion on a hunting website, not submitting a paper to a journal- of course these are our opinions.

Are you sure that’s why you don’t engage?

Landowner tags remove opportunity from the democratically allocated tag system which is against the North American Model. What do you say to that?

 

[TOGIE]

Are you sure that’s why you don’t engage?

yes.

seeth and you hold similar opinions, but he actually discusses them and recognizes many other angles and realities and engages them.

you just say things like "this is obviously what's best for the resource"

 

[Forkyfinder]

yes.

seeth and you hold similar opinions, but he actually discusses them and recognizes many other angles and realities and engages them.

you just say things like "this is obviously what's best for my opportunities and thats what i care about"

FIFY

 

[Treeshark]

Landowner tags remove opportunity from the democratically allocated tag system which is against the North American Model. What do you say to that?

So what?

 

[CoHunter1991]

Who cares?

I cant tell if you are being sarcastic. Every DYI public land hunter cares.

 

[Treeshark]

you just say things like "this is obviously what's best for the resource"

Thanks for letting me know about that- I will be more conscious of this in the future.

I can’t help but think you’re still a bit upset with me over our disagreement on the Colorado CATS thread, maybe I’m way off base.

 

[Treeshark]

I cant tell if you are being sarcastic. Every DYI public land hunter cares.

I dont think that is true- I feel that most people only pretend to care about that when they can leverage it into getting something for themselves.

 

[rogerthat]

Treecarp is just trolling. He has admitted he has never even purchased a landowner tag. He is bored on a Wednesday morning. Must have the day off or something. Anyway…terrible idea for Wyoming

 

[jtm307]

Hunting big game as a non resident is a privilege, not a right. Raise the price until the odds drawing a general elk tag are 1:1. Increase the price of everything else each year by whatever CPI is. Owning things (in this case, Wyoming citizens "owning" wildlife) is not cheap. There's nothing wrong with raising prices accordingly.

 

[CoHunter1991]

I dont think that is true- I feel that most people only pretend to care about that when they can leverage it into something for themselves.

I disagree entirely. I have lived out west my whole life and your opinion is by far the minority. Everyone cares about the loss of democratically allocated tags to landowner tags. 80% of western hunters will agree.

 

[Treeshark]

He has admitted he has never even purchased a landowner tag.

I did? Certainly don’t recall that.

 

[CoHunter1991]

Hunting big game as a non resident is a privilege, not a right. Raise the price until the odds drawing a general elk tag are 1:1. Increase the price of everything else each year by whatever CPI is. Owning things (in this case, Wyoming citizens "owning" wildlife) is not cheap. There's nothing wrong with raising prices accordingly.

I agree. As long as those tags are democratically allocated.

 

[rogerthat]

I did? Certainly don’t recall that.

Well is my statement incorrect? I’m going off memory and it’s about as good as your proposal

 

[Forkyfinder]

So what?

do you have any evidence of this actually working?

I did? Certainly don’t recall that.

ah nevermind - found it.