bayoublaster7527
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Let’s hope it doesn’t go like the wilderness rule……. DIY non-resident hunters are such an easy target.
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It has been brought up, on HT, by WY residents…but since there are 893 threads that either devolve into, or in the case of this one, start as the same old thing it’s getting hard to keep track.
I understand your points just don't really agree with some of them. I think most Western States are slowly headed that direction and I don't blame them to be honest. I'm glad I've already gotten to enjoy most of them at some point and hate the thought that future generations may not have the same luxury. But resources are limited and residents get first bibs at the end of the day. They don't have to issue anything to a NR as we all know. The easiest solution to the problem is to relocate in said State, which is also happening at an alarming rate the last few years. That will also lead to less NR tags eventually.I get what you are saying. I've run into NR hunters here in my home state. But, I don't feel like they are taking from me. Those are public lands, and open for all to enjoy. If a NR kills a buck, I'll be the first to offer help packing or dragging.
I quit applying to NM a couple of years ago. I have the worlds worst luck. As a diy guy, I'll likely never draw a good tag there.
Wyoming is headed the same direction. Within a few years, Diy hunters will be lucky to get 5-6% of LQ tags.
Well no one really knows but several users have done some back of the napkin math in one of the other 75 threads about this issue. It's like you said, they can probably just raise some fees here and there and that will do the trick.The 90/10 proposal may be too near its infancy for this kind of math to have been done, but does anyone know what the impact to G&F’s annual budget will be? Presumably non-resident fees will increase quite a bit to to try to cover some of the shortfall here, but I’m not sure they would increase enough. I’m not talking about the loss of incidental revenue—hotels, meals, gas, etc, etc—I’m just wondering what the overall loss of tag fee revenue numbers would look like in a 90/10 scenario. Maybe it’s not much. Maybe as Buzz notes G&F is sitting on enough cash that it’s not really a consideration at this point.
They don't have any hostility because they don't face NR demand because they aren't offering anything unique to nonresidents.
Apples and oranges.About as many as residents in MS get...
Bag Limits Antlered Buck Deer: The statewide bag limit on antlered buck deer is one (1) buck per day and three (3) per annual season. One (1) of these three (3) may have hardened antlers that do not meet the unit legal antler requirements on private land and Holly Springs National Forest. For youth hunters fifteen (15) years of age and younger, hunting on private land and authorized state and federal lands, all three (3) of the three (3) buck bag limit may be any antlered deer. Antlered buck bag limit in the North Central Deer Management Unit (DMU) is one (1) buck per day and four (4) per annual season. No antler restrictions apply to this DMU. All four bucks may have any sized hardened antlers. Antlerless Deer: Private lands: The statewide annual bag limit on antlerless deer is five (5). The antlerless bag limit for private lands in the North Central DMU is ten (10) antlerless deer per season. Antlerless deer are male or female deer which do not have hardened antler above the natural hairline. Only two (2) antlerless deer may be harvested from the Southeast Unit. There is no daily bag limit on antlerless deer in the Northeast, North Central, East Central, Southwest, and Delta units. Only one (1) antlerless deer per day may be harvested in the Southeast DMU. U.S. Forest Service National Forests: The bag limit is one (1) per day, not to exceed five (5) per annual season except in the Southeast Unit, which is two (2) per annual season.
It's something many of us ponder from time to time. But I mean, there are plenty of western states that are far less generous to NR than Wyoming (and I don't mean generous in an altruistic sense). I think there's probably no risk of an act of Congress to that effect (closing federal lands to hunting) unless and until a state tries to completely block NRs from accessing federal lands.What if the "90" in the 90/10 were only allowed to use those tags on private land or land owned by the state ... and not any of the Federal land owned by all of us ... just a thought.
None., but does anyone know what the impact to G&F’s annual budget will be?
So only western states have anything unique to offer to non-resident sportsman?
SMH....
I didn't win any of the mega millions lotteries either, I demand my money back.If a state drastically changes the NR scheme making it nearly impossible to draw, then they should refund the points money collected over the years back to the people buying useless points.
Ah, I see. That makes sense I suppose.I was talking specifically about deer hunting Virginia and North Carolina. I have lived in both for a combined 25 years. The hunt experiences are carbon copies of each other within each states' coastal plains, piedmont, and the Appalachians. Very similar hunts can be found in WV, TN, KY, etc.