Hem
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No d.b. is worth 5 years in a cage.
What kind of access would you like in the Breaks?
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Hunter4Life78
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He's a very interesting individual based on what I've been told. Did have a positive interaction with him once in that he allowed access to retrieve a deer my ex father in law shot. We didn't recover that deer I believe another hunter found him and put him down.
The property I hunt over that way borders some that he utilizes. "His" hunters have pushed a lot of game to us.
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Hmmm the guy on the wheeler is an ex-game warden and is a big part of the the Mule Deer Foundation in Montana, that doesn’t mean he wasn’t cited for driving off-road, but I haven’t heard anything about that, and it seems like you’re trying to spread misinformation about him to cloud this incident showing an outfitter trying to keep public land to himself and intimidate a public user who accessed it. I assume the guy on the wheeler firmly believed he accessed it via legal means, and was also pointing out all the places the outfitter had driven off-road on public lands while guiding hunters.
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Want to bet??
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When I was a kid riding dirt bikes with my grandpa some old dope grower popped out of a timber patch and had me stopped. He was telling me it was private and we needed to leave. Grandpa comes around the corner on his bike this guys started screaming at him telling us we need to leave its private. About the time he stepped infront of gramps bike like that and realized he had made a mistake when my grandpa pulled his pistol out. We rode in there for a long time after that and never once saw that guy again.
Blacktailbc
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Don’t know either party, but if outfitter guy continues to act like that, he’s gonna need to upgrade to the premium dental plan.
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Soo…..what are you trying to start here? Seems like you are trying to cause discontent. Seems odd coming from a BLM employee…when it actually took place on BLM. Isn’t that somewhat unprofessional? Conflict of interest? It’s so laughable that you bring this up. If your peanut gallery enjoyed “Season 1; Episode 1”…..pay attention to “Season 2; Episode 1”! Let’s see if you want to keep running your soup coolers then….! Just saying….This made me chuckle. Currently the motorized access is limited to an outfitter through a couple billionaire brothers private.
geewhiz, your comment wasn’t the chuckle part.
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BuzzH
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FFS, grow up. There is no conflict of interest.
Faber's have been a PITA for decades, think they own the breaks and have a history of harassing hunters.
I am trying to make the public aware of the comment period for allowing vehicular access to the Bullwhacker area. I realize the encounter was on BLM and I don't doubt that Chris was accurate with the trespass on a closed road. Don't know what that has to do with my professionalism. The road that was mentioned in the video is the same one that is out for public scoping.
I do think it is rich when both you and Eric both "thumbs up" a comment about Montana needs less access, when Chris does have vehicular assess to the BLM, but the public doesn't. Interesting to google all three of your names, hence the chuckle.
MOGA Leadership - Montana Outfitters and Guides Association
2024 Executive Committee President: Chris Francis C. Francis & Co. Sporting Agents P.O. Box 15 Gallatin Gateway, MT 59730 Phone: (406) 587-1227 Email This Board Member (Term Expires 12/31/25) President Elect: Eric Albus Milk River Outfitters Box 35 Hinsdale, MT 59241 Office: (406)...
Is your "too much access" only for the public, commercial outfitting or both?
FWP thought public assess was important enough to enter into a PALA with the private landowners and now the BLM is soliciting public comment for access across BLM. I am in favor of equitable access, but of course I will remain "professional" and not participate in the scoping.
I am not asking folks on this thread to comment one way or the other, just making folks aware if they are interested.
I also find it interesting that Governor Gianforte selected you and Eric to the PLPW. Appreciate your efforts to be "more responsive to hunter's needs".
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SAJ-99
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Winner of Best comment this week.
Carnage2011
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I’m not defending him by any means. I’ve dealt with Chris a time or two and while he isn’t the biggest man in the world, he’s not someone I’m throwing hands with. I can’t remember the details but I’m certain he was a stud college wrestler and he’s built like a bulldog. Not one of those little French ones either!
I’m fairly indifferent about the road access. It’s nice having some areas that have very little vehicle traffic and people have to put work in to hunt them. The few roads in that area get absolutely piss pounded with people. With that being said, Faber runs waaaaay to many deer hunters through and slaughters a bunch of those deer so it may as well be open to public access. I have personally witnessed his guides off roading in their jeeps down there and tearing things up when it’s wet.
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Right if you wanna be a cowboy ride a horse not a sxs
SAJ-99
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Regardless. As long as everyone has to do the same, what does it matter? I am a proponent of wilderness as well. This is not that case. This is one person getting to enjoy something and trying to prevent others from the same public benefit.
BuzzH
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My experience too. Chris would blow a gasket if he saw someone else behaving the way he and his guides do.
I would like to see better access into the area in question.
An aside as I haven't been there for a long time, do they still own the bar at Cleveland?
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I agree
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Great! I’m glad that you find it interesting. I also find it interesting that you needed to put up a video that shows one side in order to get your point across. What did you think you would accomplish by showing a one sided video?I am trying to make the public aware of the comment period for allowing vehicular access to the Bullwhacker area. I realize the encounter was on BLM and I don't doubt that Chris was accurate with the trespass on a closed road. Don't know what that has to do with my professionalism. The road that was mentioned in the video is the same one that is out for public scoping.
I do think it is rich when both you and Eric both "thumbs up" a comment about Montana needs less access, when Chris does have vehicular assess to the BLM, but the public doesn't. Interesting to google all three of your names, hence the chuckle.
MOGA Leadership - Montana Outfitters and Guides Association
2024 Executive Committee President: Chris Francis C. Francis & Co. Sporting Agents P.O. Box 15 Gallatin Gateway, MT 59730 Phone: (406) 587-1227 Email This Board Member (Term Expires 12/31/25) President Elect: Eric Albus Milk River Outfitters Box 35 Hinsdale, MT 59241 Office: (406)...www.montanaoutfitters.org
Is your "too much access" only for the public, commercial outfitting or both?
FWP thought public assess was important enough to enter into a PALA with the private landowners and now the BLM is soliciting public comment for access across BLM. I am in favor of equitable access, but of course I will remain "professional" and not participate in the scoping.
I am not asking folks on this thread to comment one way or the other, just making folks aware if they are interested.
I also find it interesting that Governor Gianforte selected you and Eric to the PLPW. Appreciate your efforts to be "more responsive to hunter's needs".
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I didn't give an opinion one way or the other on the video. In fact, I just mentioned that I thought Chris was probably accurate.
Only reason I put up the video is that it was specific the road being discussed.
cgasner1
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I’d be interested in watching the video from the other side
Carnage2011
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I can't say I've ever been to the bar in Cleveland so I'm not sure on that one.
