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[Deleted member 18333]

That and I'd argue the point of liberal arts degrees are to teach you how to adhere to deadlines, be accountable, work well in a group, and communicate effectively. The actual content doesn't matter, it's more did you have a ton of rigorous assignments for years and did you demonstrate via grades that you could produce a good final product. Can you use consultant speak and make a pretty PP, you're hired.

I think you could argue that the point of a BS degree in engineering ticks alot of those boxes as well.

At my work, we have almost entirely given up on trying to attract new engineers out of college. Its just too hard to get them to come here. What we have done is hired people with a degree in Archeology and Business Administration and then they work under me for a couple of years to teach them how to design and build. So far I am very happy with the results.

 

[rjthehunter]

This feels like a personal attack,

signed, a former creative writing major.

Quick question for a personal study I'm doing...

What do you do for work now?

 

[VikingsGuy]

That and I'd argue the point of liberal arts degrees are to teach you how to adhere to deadlines, be accountable, work well in a group, and communicate effectively. The actual content doesn't matter, it's more did you have a ton of rigorous assignments for years and did you demonstrate via grades that you could produce a good final product. Can you use consultant speak and make a pretty PP, you're hired.

I do agree that for many jobs a college degree is just a certificate that says you are willing and able to follow structured directions (no matter how illogical) for a long period of time to get a small reward -- exactly what employers want to know.

 

[VikingsGuy]

Quick question for a personal study I'm doing...

What do you do for work now?

I will not out him directly, but it is the only profession less liked than a used car dealer, lawyer, or member of congress

 

[Benfromalbuquerque]

Very true, we just hate the crowding and traffic. Lower wages up here, but also lower cost of living. I do wish I was more career focused in my 20's. Got an AAS going to community college in the evenings after work a few years back. Paid cash, no loans. Added a few tech certifications. Now I have no school debt and a good looking future in IT .

Youse a smart sumbitch. I commend you for figuring it out when it still made a difference.

 

[rjthehunter]

I will not out him directly, but it is the only profession less liked than a used car dealer, lawyer, or member of congress

OOFDA!! I didn't know there was a profession less liked than a lawyer or congress member!

 

[Deleted member 28227]

Quick question for a personal study I'm doing...

What do you do for work now?

 

[Benfromalbuquerque]

Monetary value? You know that answer already, because someone other than me is willing to pay for it. Intrinsic/Societal value? Because it elicits emotion and feelings in the person viewing it.

My thoughts but they are not worth much, I am one of those colorless engineers that hasn't been educated enough to appreciate art for its intrinsic value.

You see, even a square can respect art for some reason!

 

[jt13]

I'm glad PSLF was penciled into my loan documents... 108 of 120 payments down with 12 more to go

 

[Deleted member 18333]

You see, even a square can respect art for some reason!

I've been called worse. Today even.

 

[beginnerhunter]

The real question: Once SCOTUS puts the SMACKDOWN on them LIBS...how will it impact point creep, draw odds, and used truck prices?

Jk, I've enjoyed reading the legal analysis in this thread, thank you guys.

 

[Benfromalbuquerque]

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Right there, that theatric masterpiece. +1 Humanities!

 

[beginnerhunter]

I'm glad PSLF was penciled into my loan documents... 108 of 120 payments down with 12 more to go

Pathetic, I know, but I cried when my PSLF went through and I saw my balance show $0.

 

[DouglasR]

Quick question for a personal study I'm doing...

What do you do for work now?

Drug up laborer

 

[Bowmannate2000]

Youse a smart sumbitch. I commend you for figuring it out when it still made a difference.

Getting married really helped figure things out. She has definitely helped and encouraged me to better myself, both personally and professionally.

 

[BrentD]

Remind me which 4 yr diploma Michelangelo had, and how much did he take out in student loans to get it?

Actually, he went the indentured servitude route of the trades and skipped academia.

I googled it, 'cuz I'm not an art history major (but I knew one once and he was cool, Dexter).

 

[Ben Lamb]

Quick question for a personal study I'm doing...

What do you do for work now?

 

[SAJ-99]

OOFDA!! I didn't know there was a profession less liked than a lawyer or congress member!

IRS employee...

 

[SAJ-99]

The US 2022 average for college tuition, fees, books, room, board, etc is reported as aprox $40k. The average completion time 4.5 years. $40Kx4.5=$180k. I apologize for rounding up in a random phone-typed internet post.

I have made this point before on another thread, the openings are there for nurses and "universities" are finding ways to get people degrees. So you have online nursing degrees, some you can get in 18mos. It doesn't include the credits a student has to transfer in, but one can get those at an online community college, or something. The market will find a way. What could go wrong?

 

[Benfromalbuquerque]

I have made this point before on another thread, the openings are there for nurses and "universities" are finding ways to get people degrees. So you have online nursing degrees, some you can get in 18mos. It doesn't include the credits a student has to transfer in, but one can get those at an online community college, or something. The market will find a way. What could go wrong?

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I need naloxone on this feverish newborn, blow by O2! Nurse puts crushed aspirin in IV, attaches 15ml oxygen to IV and rubs noxema on baby’s face.