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Nemont
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Easy for you to say I am working on Veterans day for the first time in 21 years. Who ever made open enrollment during hunting season sure didn't think very far ahead. Thanks Obama
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I have a beautiful river running through my place. I went down to enjoy it yesterday. While there I slipped on a rock, fell, cracked my head on a boulder and dislocated my right hand “bird” finger. Luckily for me (others not so much) I did not conk out and drown; and I reset my finger.
I've decided to start feeling more and thinking less, and I've decided to quit flipping people off. These are the types of lessons I take from Nature. I'm sure she tried more subtle messages to the same end, but I rarely “get” those at the time they are delivered. Thus, She has to turn up the volume.
Just thought I'd share.
Peace, out.
Oh, P.S., for those of you who are concerned, the boulder is fine. It's still on it's way to the Gulf of Mexico, ETA a long time from now.
I've decided to start feeling more and thinking less, and I've decided to quit flipping people off. These are the types of lessons I take from Nature. I'm sure she tried more subtle messages to the same end, but I rarely “get” those at the time they are delivered. Thus, She has to turn up the volume.
Just thought I'd share.
Peace, out.
Oh, P.S., for those of you who are concerned, the boulder is fine. It's still on it's way to the Gulf of Mexico, ETA a long time from now.
RobG
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No it wouldn't. The election wasn't decided differently because Montana had 0.2% more sway per capita (or whatever the difference was). It was decided because all of the votes in a couple key bigger states went to one side. I got the big boy pants on and am not complaining about the outcome, but the EC isn't doing what it was supposed to do.
Irrelevant
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You tried to make the case that because that's the way it's always been then it should be maintained. I call BS. I absolutely would not be singing a different tune if HC got elected. I didn't vote for her. But the idea that in the last five elections two of them have not reflected the will of the people is troubling. The idea that I have the responsibility to directly elect my congressmen, but not the president is simply absurd.
The deer are rutting in South Central Montana but its hotter than a Saudi Prince after Hillary's loss. I went out yesterday. I hiked 2 hours in the dark, wearing a tee-shirt and had all the pockets and vents on my pants open.
You should not be able to hike long before sun up in mid november in the Beartooth in a Tee-shirt.
You should not be able to hike long before sun up in mid november in the Beartooth in a Tee-shirt.
Idahoarcheryhunter
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Same here in Idaho, bucks are moving but I'm in a t shirt by 9 am damn global warming.... Thanks Obama
LuketheDog
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Come on, go back to high school and pay attention! The Electoral College is doing EXACTLY what it is supposed to do and preserving our republic. The founders of this GREAT country were wise far beyond their years, checks and balances work. How come every time the Democrats lose they decry the 'old-fashioned' electoral college, but when they win two in a row there is no problem with it?
Really? The republicans didn't cry?
You didn't see the leaders of the Democratic Party come out and say they would do everything possible to make sure the new President fails like the republcans did after Obama was elected.
katqanna
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Saw this article yesterday, which was interesting considering how many Republicans, especially connected with military and security, publicly came out against Trump. I wondered how they were going to deal with this situation.
‘Prediction professor’ who called Trump’s big win also made another forecast: Trump will be impeached
‘Prediction professor’ who called Trump’s big win also made another forecast: Trump will be impeached
noharleyyet
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katqanna
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An interesting aspect of the Electoral College was just in an article about its relevance in this modern age.
Professor Akhil Reed Amar, the Sterling Professor of Law and Political Science at Yale University and a specialist in constitutional law, stated it wasn't about population specifically, but slave populations that could not vote, more about protecting slavery interests, which I knew were already being addressed in the Colonies before the Union was established. Part of the reason why George Washington granted freedom to his slaves in his will, but not when he was alive. The Civil War of the late 1800's was not a matter of "if", but rather "when", as the seeds of this division were already being sown at the formation of the United States.
Thomas Paine, a prolific writer for the Revolution and the establishment of our government (I have enjoyed Paine's writings, having many volumes, sadly my oldest daughter ran off with all his books when she moved out, being infatuated with them herself), considered a founding father, wrote an essay to Americans, African Slavery in America, in 1774, published in March 1775, addressing this subject. In 1795 Paine wrote, "The right of voting for representatives is the primary right by which other rights are protected. To take away this right is to reduce a man to slavery, for slavery consists in being subject to the will of another, and he that has not a vote in the election of representatives is in this case (Dissertation on First Principles of Government)."
Then, "In 1806, when Thomas Paine walked into his New Rochelle polling station to cast his vote for the congressional election, he was turned away, denied the ballot. The Tory election inspectors asserted that he was not an American and that he had been renounced by George Washington. He told them they were wrong on both counts, but one of the inspectors threatened to have him arrested, and Paine left without voting. He pursued the matter in court and lost. He had no right to vote in the nation that now counts him one of its Founders." Tragic this sh*t is still continuing to this day to suppress voting.
Professor Akhil Reed Amar recently expounded on the Electoral College existing to protect slavery interests.
Professor Akhil Reed Amar, the Sterling Professor of Law and Political Science at Yale University and a specialist in constitutional law, stated it wasn't about population specifically, but slave populations that could not vote, more about protecting slavery interests, which I knew were already being addressed in the Colonies before the Union was established. Part of the reason why George Washington granted freedom to his slaves in his will, but not when he was alive. The Civil War of the late 1800's was not a matter of "if", but rather "when", as the seeds of this division were already being sown at the formation of the United States.
Thomas Paine, a prolific writer for the Revolution and the establishment of our government (I have enjoyed Paine's writings, having many volumes, sadly my oldest daughter ran off with all his books when she moved out, being infatuated with them herself), considered a founding father, wrote an essay to Americans, African Slavery in America, in 1774, published in March 1775, addressing this subject. In 1795 Paine wrote, "The right of voting for representatives is the primary right by which other rights are protected. To take away this right is to reduce a man to slavery, for slavery consists in being subject to the will of another, and he that has not a vote in the election of representatives is in this case (Dissertation on First Principles of Government)."
Then, "In 1806, when Thomas Paine walked into his New Rochelle polling station to cast his vote for the congressional election, he was turned away, denied the ballot. The Tory election inspectors asserted that he was not an American and that he had been renounced by George Washington. He told them they were wrong on both counts, but one of the inspectors threatened to have him arrested, and Paine left without voting. He pursued the matter in court and lost. He had no right to vote in the nation that now counts him one of its Founders." Tragic this sh*t is still continuing to this day to suppress voting.
Professor Akhil Reed Amar recently expounded on the Electoral College existing to protect slavery interests.
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BigHornRam
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You must have missed Harry Reid's toxic comments.
Joe gets it.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/joe-manchin-harry-reid-donald-trump-231276
Washington Hunter
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I haven't been keeping up with this thread since I was gone hunting the last few days, but I just have to say Noharley is right, Trump's win WAS impressive, and don't try to say Hillary got more votes, because many of her votes are fraudulent and shouldn't even count.
She got many votes from people who are not even citizens of this country. She got votes from felons who were given the right to vote just days before the election. And surely, she got many, many votes from people who are dead. Yep, that's how the Democrats roll.
Steve Bannon....really? I don't care if you are a major Trump supporter, it's despicable and is already showing me I won't stand by where Trump is going if Steve Bannon is a major part of his team. Obama went to far left, if Trump try's to run even harder right, he will lose in 4 years to an even bigger liberal progressive than Obama or Hillary Clinton. Thats not where the country is, and Trumps presidency could destroy conservatism and the Republican Party if he starts propping up discussing people like Steve Bannon.
Big Sky Dreamin
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Fresh news from DC, looks like there will be no change after all.
Trump's new Cheif of Staff, Reince Prebus. Pence running the transition team. Bolton,Gingrich, Giuliani, and Palin mentioned for positions. About the only change, several oil execs mentioned for positions effecting public lands from EPA to Interior.
Drain the swamp is starting to look more like dredge the swamp to fill the cabinet.
Trump's new Cheif of Staff, Reince Prebus. Pence running the transition team. Bolton,Gingrich, Giuliani, and Palin mentioned for positions. About the only change, several oil execs mentioned for positions effecting public lands from EPA to Interior.
Drain the swamp is starting to look more like dredge the swamp to fill the cabinet.
noharleyyet
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Trumps first choice was Michael Richards who turned him down to focus on his new career as a staff writer for Mother Jones.
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