Thoughts on this shot? - Tim Wells

[SaskHunter]

For $700 and 1000 miles of driving I don’t care if I’m boiling hooves for jello cups, I’m eating something off that sob.

I'm making an elk fur g-string if I have to.

 

[Bigjay73]

Who's Tim Wells?

 

[Nick87]

I knew better than to click on this thread.

Here I thought you were going to share a YouTube review.

 

[Schaaf]

Here I thought you were going to share a YouTube review.

I’ll make one if you’d like.

 

[Nick87]

I’ll make one if you’d like.

Suprise us

 

[DouglasR]

I'm making an elk fur g-string if I have to.

That’s borderline trophy hunting.
Kinda like taking the rack and no meat.

 

[LousyResident]

I'm making an elk fur g-string if I have to.

It always comes back to the merkin....

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

Why...just why. Not gonna lie I am impressed with the skill but like JLS said...save it for the 3D target. Your not supposed to respect a 3D target.

 

[Gerald Martin]

Has anyone left an elk overnight and not lost ~1/2?

Three times in archery. O% loss for two of them and @ 5% on the third.

Twice in rifle. 20% loss on both of those.

The underfur on a late rifle elk hide traps way more heat than the late summer/ archery elk without underfur. Summer elk hair dissipates heat. Fall/winter elk hair traps heat.

These weren’t all my elk. Several were hunting partners elk that I helped recover.

 

[PaulRevere]

What a dick

 

[Dinkshooter]

I'm not giving views to any link on this thread!

 

[TheTone]

I'm not giving views to any link on this thread!

Coward

 

[The Hedgehog]

Three times in archery. O% loss for two of them and @ 5% on the third.

Twice in rifle. 20% loss on both of those.

The underfur on a late rifle elk hide traps way more heat than the late summer/ archery elk without underfur. Summer elk hair dissipates heat. Fall/winter elk hair traps heat.

These weren’t all my elk. Several were hunting partners elk that I helped recover.

Elk left overnight with guts in and 0% loss?

I’m not seeing how that is possible, regardless of temperature or hide even 20% loss, unless you’re packaging up a lot of sour meat.

The hide has very little to do with why they overheat from the inside with 100# lbs of hot guts..

 

[Deleted member 16014]

Come on you guys, I thought we were all supposed to stick together LOLZ?

What a cute stunt. Save it for the 3-D target.

You're just like Wendy, a big ol' jelly hater.

 

[Perlodid]

Elk left overnight with guts in and 0% loss?

I’m not seeing how that is possible, regardless of temperature or hide even 20% loss, unless you’re packaging up a lot of sour meat.

The hide has very little to do with why they overheat from the inside with 100# lbs of hot guts..

Rather than summer vs winter coats - isn't this probably a factor of when the elk expired? Like if you leave an elk overnight with guts in that has been dead 8+ hours, it will almost certainly be spoiled. But if you leave one overnight on a marginal hit and find it when it has been dead for only an hour or two, it would have had a lot less time to spoil because it was still working to keep itself alive the majority of that time.

 

[Deleted member 28227]

Elk left overnight with guts in and 0% loss?

I’m not seeing how that is possible, regardless of temperature or hide even 20% loss, unless you’re packaging up a lot of sour meat.

The hide has very little to do with why they overheat from the inside with 100# lbs of hot guts..

Please take this as a question someone might ask their mentor; How does one know if meat is soured? Can you eat sour meat?

I've lost 2 animals and recovered every other animal within an hour or less of the shot so I'm curious.
I did help pack out a bull during archery season that someone had gutted and left overnight, the meat I got tasted super gamey but I still ate it and didn't get sick.

 

[longbow51]

What I was taught is that even if you gut the elk, you have to get the animal off the snow so that air can circulate, either by hanging or getting logs/rocks under the carcass or you will have some soured meat. This guy had killed tons of elk and outfitted for many years, so guessing he learned from experience. And a friend of mine bowshot a huge mulie in CO and found it the next day. Tried to give me a "burger". Yuck.

 

[The Hedgehog]

Rather than summer vs winter coats - isn't this probably a factor of when the elk expired? Like if you leave an elk overnight with guts in that has been dead 8+ hours, it will almost certainly be spoiled. But if you leave one overnight on a marginal hit and find it when it has been dead for only an hour or two, it would have had a lot less time to spoil because it was still working to keep itself alive the majority of that time.

"Overnight" to me is 6-8 hours or more. That means you're loosing a ton, if not all the meat, regardless of temp. If it died an hour before you found it doesn't mean it laid there "dead" overnight. Sour meat smells sour, and tastes terrible. Can you eat it - sure? You can also eat turds and vomit, wolves, and porcupines, have at it.

 

[TheTone]

I wonder if that packed it out at all and if they did they probably did the honorable hunting media thing of donating it to the needy

 

[BuzzH]

Please take this as a question someone might ask their mentor; How does one know if meat is soured? Can you eat sour meat?

I've lost 2 animals and recovered every other animal within an hour or less of the shot so I'm curious.
I did help pack out a bull during archery season that someone had gutted and left overnight, the meat I got tasted super gamey but I still ate it and didn't get sick.

Oh, you'll know if its sour...your nose never forgets.

As others have said, its probably about when the animal actually died during the time it was "left out overnight".

Even gutted elk/moose left in warm weather, or even below freezing weather, will start to sour pretty quickly in the neck/shoulder area.

I learned long ago about that, and have never made a mistake since. Best, if you're only going to gut an elk (which IMO is dumb), you need to separate the shoulders from the body...if its cold you'll see why, lots of heat is held in that area. Its a nice theory to try to get a gutted elk off the ground, but unless you're Hercules or have 3-4 guys and logs available...good luck with that.

IMO/E its best to quarter moose and elk ASAP rather than gut them and leave them overnight. I can quarter an elk in 30 minutes taking my time, even if it takes someone else and hour, so be it.