Phaseolus
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Don’t even get me going about feral horses...
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Those SOBs eating all the grassDon’t even get me going about feral horses...
If it wasn't the horses, it would just be more cattle or sheep.Those SOBs eating all the grass
And as I've learned (https://www.themeateater.com/conser...ghorn-stronghold-why-does-this-keep-happening) those sheep are bad for our bighorn sheep.If it wasn't the horses, it would just be more cattle or sheep.
I hope this was a joke.If it wasn't the horses, it would just be more cattle or sheep.
Owl was struck with a hernia and had to let it go I'm sure.Holy smoke! I cant believe an Owl tried to take a cat that size...good on your buddy there to win the engagement.
That would require a sense of humorI hope this was a joke.
Guess im one of these "cat colony people" you are so against. Had quite a few feral / barn cats at one point that i would feed just enough to keep them around. All gone now due to my outrageous lion / yote / bob / wolf etc etc issues. I know feral cats kill birds. But if you got a big woodshed with several years worth of firewood, and a barn packed with alfalfa, youll have packrats. Id rather have feral cats than packrats. Not a big fan of pocket gophers or whistlepigs either. So if the cats kill some tweety birds or quail in the proccess of keeping the packrats and gophers down, so be it. Gotta break a few eggs to make an omlette.I work on small mammals (ie, rodents), so you might guess, I'm not a real fan of feral, wild, or free-ranging cats. Really cats are probably not very important to most game species. Where they really hurt is with with nongame wildlife, especially rodents. I could go on a long time about that, but that's pretty far afield for a hunting forum.
However, without getting too much into the verbiage of the differences between those three categories of cats, I will say that really only one is a major problem with an exception. Free-ranging kitties that go home to bowls of Friskies in the kitchen or barn are the problem. The other two groups are really just another predator. No worse or better than any other really. Their numbers will ebb and flow with the abundances of prey (again, mostly small rodents, some small birds, and a few other things from time to time).
But when they have Friskies to fall back on they don't' starve when the game gets low, they don't have reduced litter survival, they don't suffer. Predators that do not suffer during shortages of prey are a real problem.
The exceptions are those feral and wild cats that are maintained during shortages (and other times) by the stereotypical little ol' lady who goes out and puts bowls of Friskies in the bush. Those cats will not starve before the last of their prey are killed. That is a big problem.
If you know of any of these "cat colony" people you might alert authorities. They are generally doing this illegally (feeding cats like that is illegal in some places, or they are often trespassing). However, authorities are often reluctant to do more than politely ask for a "cease and desist" which never works.
mine alsoThere is a huge difference between feral and a pet. I don't think to many people advocate taking out someone's cared for pet. At least I hope not...
Some areas get over run. Then it's even a problem for our pets. I've paid several hundred dollars in vet bills when my poor cat gets his butt kicked. Too bad he's not a better fighter.
Gotta play devils advocate just to rustle some jimmies. Cats killing pheasant is just one invasive species killing another invasive species. Neither belong on this continent, right? Ill see myself out now.I grew up in a little farming town about an hour away from a major city. Without fail, people from the city would buy a kitten, thinking it would stay a kitten forever, and then tire of said kitten once it became a cat. Our little community, and the surrounding area, became the dumping grounds for these cats... The impact these cats had on the local pheasant population was immense.
Then, along came the wondrous 17 HMR ... ditch tiger hunts became an after school ritual! The pheasants slowly made a comeback.
All-in-all I feel pretty satisfied about the conservation efforts of those after school hunts!
Pheasants have their own support system - Pheasants forever...along with the SSGS (snooty sixteen gauge society)Gotta play devils advocate just to rustle some jimmies. Cats killing pheasant is just one invasive species killing another invasive species. Neither belong on this continent, right? Ill see myself out now.
I much prefer chukars for my invasive exotics, and sharps tails and sage grouse for natives.Pheasants have their own support system - Pheasants forever...along with the SSGS (snooty sixteen gauge society)
Gotta play devils advocate just to rustle some jimmies. Cats killing pheasant is just one invasive species killing another invasive species. Neither belong on this continent, right? Ill see myself out now.
No judo point, what is this, amateur hour?This lady lets her cat out to kill wild animals and she’s mad someone shot it with a crossbow.
Cat people are something else. How do you get the idea it’s totally okay for your animal to roam around killing shit all the time?
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