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The housing shortage and public lands

Perhaps we should keep in mind that everyone who lives in the West is relatively NEW from certain perspectives. I think that I'm the 15th generation to live on this contentment from England (1607 or 414 years; most European settlement came after that). However Spanish settlement was here just over a hundred years prior to my families’ arrival and the Native Americans was perhaps 15,000 years ago. We are all relatively new commers to this land.

Often increased populations are what changes the political course and direction of an area vs just political affiliation. It is inevitable. For example, just look at the Western settlement. Settlers started to displace the First Peoples and the mountain men. Settlers were the greenhorns and were considered problemated citizens. Railroads and the Cattle industry brought more people displaced many of those first settlers, put up fences and displaced the wildlife. Crime increased with the population boom especialliy in the towns and to be honest the lack of female governance in early Western Settler’s lives. If fact, perceived widespread lawlessness in any City in America today would still be characterized as the “Wild West”. Once families were established in the West, new rules were put into place changing how things were done in Western towns. Now Western towns are being repopulated and things are changing again to accommodate the increased number of people.
Indians would have been wise to kill the white man at first glance to preserve their way of life. Instead, they tried to make piece with the newcomers and it incrementally ended in their demise.

Multi generational residents of states like Montana, Wyoming and Idaho would be wise to…. Well… never mind.
 
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Yeah, like they had a lot of freedom when Batista and US organized crime ran the country. Just as brutal as Castro. American corporations fleeced the resources and left ordinary Cubans impoverished. Castro simply nationalized those industries. The people of Cuba traded landlords, that's all. The US embargo is responsible for 75% of the oppression Cubans live with today. And the embargo is because Castro nationalized industry and resources that American corporations stole from Spanish owners after the SA War. America didn't like him stealing their stolen goods ... so ordinary Cubans suffer ... for fifty years.
 
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Indians would have been wise to kill the white man at first glance to preserve their way of life. Instead, they tried to make piece with the newcomers and it incrementally ended in their demise.
A classic and oft repeated case of looking at history through rose coloured glasses. Pre-Columbian Native Americans couldn't keep the peace among themselves, so what makes you think they would approach newcomers peacefully? We are in the middle of a similar epidemic of deliberate historical misinterpretation up here right now with the Indian residential schools backlash. Hip-shooting history with no factual ammunition. Sickening.
 
A classic and oft repeated case of looking at history through rose coloured glasses. Pre-Columbian Native Americans couldn't keep the peace among themselves, so what makes you think they would approach newcomers peacefully? We are in the middle of a similar epidemic of deliberate historical misinterpretation up here right now with the Indian residential schools backlash. Hip-shooting history with no factual ammunition. Sickening.
 
Yeah, like they had a lot of freedom when Batista and US organized crime ran the country. Just as brutal as Castro. American corporations fleeced the resources and left ordinary Cubans impoverished. Castro simply nationalized those industries. The people of Cuba traded landlords, that's all. The US embargo is responsible for 75% of the oppression Cubans live with today. And the embargo is because Castro nationalized industry and resources that American corporations stole from Spanish owners after the SA War. America didn't like him stealing their stolen goods ... so ordinary Cubans suffer ... for fifty years.
If you search hard enough, you can always find a narrative that fits with your personal philosophies.

Philanthropy or organized crime?



 
If you search hard enough, you can always find a narrative that fits with your personal philosophies.
If you do any research at all ... you might get some answers. Or you can just make up reality to fit your agenda. The deplorable situation in Cuba before the revolution was and is common knowledge. It's why the CIA gave overt support to Castro.
 
Indians would have been wise to kill the white man at first glance to preserve their way of life. Instead, they tried to make piece with the newcomers and it incrementally ended in their demise.

Multi generational residents of states like Montana, Wyoming and Idaho would be wise to…. Well… never mind.
I think that it was actually that kind of thinking that really got those folks nearly eradicated. A few Native peoples thought that they had a choice and took positive action to make them feel like they made a difference. Those individuals cashed the check for all the other Native People. I think that the American Fur Company lost an average of 10 men per month to violent deaths and lost something like $80k a year in pelts to Native actions. Of course there is a significant and important Native side of this story, but there is no way they could have thought that the AFC would allow that to stand. Certainly not the settlers who brought their families. Nonnative men didn’t nessasarraly care if the Native peoples existed, in fact I trully think that they kind of liked knowing that they did exist. They really only cared that some of them negatively impacted their lives and investments.

I was enjoying a lunch with a group of guys at one of the sportspersons shows and the subject of ancestry and Western expansion came up. At the time, I was in the process of connecting the dots on my Wife’s family history and retold the story of what I just learned. They had an old family story about the move from the East to the Midwest (at the time it was considered the West), next after a pandemic and loss of all but one family member; he moved to Oklahoma territory, Texas, CA and eventually HI. It was a true American story and facinating (at least to me).

I found a periodical that described an “Indian attack” on my Wife’s Great, Great, Great grandfathers ranch in OK. After the disaster in the Midwest he relocated and started a new family. Slowley purchased land for a cattle ranch and general store in town (anything to make ends meet). The only two survivors of this attack were the father and one of his Son’s (my wife’s GGF), who were off buying cattle at the time of the attack. When they came home, they found everyone dead with arrows sticking out of them and bodies all hacked up and mutilated. This was including women, children and a 2 ½ year old baby. I remember thinking at the time that it was astounding to me that my Wife had ever been born as the odds of that happening through all this has to be crazy.

Sitting at my table durring this lunch was a displaced member of the Cherokee Nation who grew up on a Oklahoma reservation. He was offended that I brought it up - he justifed his ansesters smashing the head in on this two-year-old because his people were moved there during the Trail of Tears. It actually wasn't the Cherokee that did it but he took the story personally and wanted to defend all Native peoples at the retelling. Obviously, my Wife’s Grandfather at the time started to resolve the issue as he felt necessary and the wheel kept turning.
 
If you search hard enough, you can always find a narrative that fits with your personal philosophies.

Philanthropy or organized crime?



There is some significant truth to this stuff about Haiti
 
PhD in history.
you’ve mentioned this before. I think I’ve also read about 22 times that you’re a multimillionaire.

Seem to also have a PhD in taking everything you read on a hunting forum as dead serious.
Since the clarification is needed for Ontario and possibly others, I was not saying that ID, WY, and MT residents should welcome newcomers by literally scalping them or burning down their domiciles.
 
If you do any research at all ... you might get some answers. Or you can just make up reality to fit your agenda. The deplorable situation in Cuba before the revolution was and is common knowledge. It's why the CIA gave overt support to Castro.
Which lead to the Kennedys being assinated.😉
 
some admirable things about boulder too
- that city has stymied outward growth and prioritized open space more than just about any city/county in the state and probably beyond

They’ve stymied outward growth, but they’ve also stymied upward growth.

The result is that the outward growth jumps the “green belt” and happens in the surrounding towns like Louisville, Longmont, Lafayette, and Erie, and those people still drive into Boulder to work, dine, etc. Not really an improvement IMO.

In the face of growth, shutting your doors and saying “we’re closed” only pushes it elsewhere so the sprawl monster can consume yet another open space and poop out a subdivision.

Boulder’s ethos is no different than most communities: “not in my backyard!”. They just happen to be much better it.

Yes. It’s nice if you live there (I did for a while), but the prevailing attitude towards development only fuels the suburban hellscape devouring the Front Range.
 
you’ve mentioned this before. I think I’ve also read about 22 times that you’re a multimillionaire.

Seem to also have a PhD in taking everything you read on a hunting forum as dead serious.
Since the clarification is needed for Ontario and possibly others, I was not saying that ID, WY, and MT residents should welcome newcomers by literally scalping them or burning down their domiciles.
For the record, (if you were refering to me as the possible others), I know that you wouldn’t really threaten to scalp people or burn down their domiciles - at least on a public forum😊

I just enjoy a good logical, factual debate with intelligent people. It’s a rare personality issue that I have – I don’t even care if you prove me wrong if your up for the challenge and can actually prove it.
 
How about this? Fact or conspiracy theory rolling around in @Ontario Hunter head?

wasnt there

But I think that I can tell you that the Secret Service did tell me (a long time ago), that Oswald was the only shooter - was a lone shooter and they dismissed any other theory’s as conjecture. You will have to decide for yourself if you belive what they belive to be true.
 
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For the record, (if you were refering to me as the possible others), I know that you wouldn’t really threaten to scalp people or burn down their domiciles - at least on a public forum😊
I just enjoy a good logical, factual debate with intelligent people. It’s a rare personality issue that I have – I don’t even care if you prove me wrong if your up for the challenge and can actually prove it.
i wasn’t. I assume (possibly incorrectly) that for every person that comments in a place like this, 5 read it and don’t comment. Possible others would be them.
 
Ok definitely a little different than buying ipo’s I never really followed this guy’s history. He still did what anyone of us can do. He met the income limit and funded a Roth with shares in a company he co founded. Anyone that’s meets the income limit can fund a Roth and anyone can start a company. He wasn’t given pay pal he was part of creating it. I’m not technologically smart enough to do an internet start up but I’m not pissed off because he is. That’s my only point. We all have the rights to create massive wealth we just don’t all have the ability. I’m good I don’t need 5 billion -around 20 million or so would be nice though 😂

There are multiple issues related to valuation of the initial stock and self-dealing rules and prohibited transactions under IRC §4795. As long as the IRS is underfunded there probably won't be much enforcement. But if the average person goes to the vast majority of tax attorneys and/or CPAs when starting a business and say that want it to be owned by their Roth IRA the answer is going to be "no way am I touching that transaction".
 
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