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Tariffs and Potential Inflation

Asking to understand, are people okay with paying illegals to work which also avoids payroll taxes, reporting, OSHA, etc.
You're asking the question to the wrong people.

You need to ask those that are actually hiring them, you know, the ranchers, farmers, construction companies, big corporations. They're the ones cutting the fat hog in the ass by avoiding payroll taxes, reporting, OSHA, unemployment insurance, retirement, health insurance etc.

What I think doesn't matter because of a few reasons:

1. I'm not hiring them.
2. I'm not buying the politicians that are allowing big business to do it.
3. I can't get a law passed to punish big business for taking advantage (please refer back to #2 for the why).

Them's the facts Jack.
 
#1: DOL provides a certificate to the company / petitioner.
#2: Petitioner for specific H2A or B. So long as no Petitioner DOL/DHS violations meet a threshold to deny, a 797 is provided to petitioner and non immigrant.
#3: The non immigrant must obtained a H2 visa from U.S. Consulate/Embassy. All non immigrants must enter the U.S. from foreign location for admissibility review by US CBP. Upon approval the non immigrant is granted "X" time frame to be present in the U.S..
No non-immigrant work visa requires the petitioner to house workers. That is the employer's decision.
H2B visas (non agriculture) are capped based on DOL calculated lack of U.S. workers to fill positions. Determined by DOL before petitioning with DHS USCIS.
H2A visas (Agriculture) are not capped.

This is a valuable process as it protects the employee who holds equal DOL rights including injury on the job - workers compensation, receive legal pay equivalent to a U.S. citizen or U.S. immigrant (LPR) for the work at least the highest of, Federal, State, local, or the prevailing wage for work average, the non-immigrant pays taxes.
 

Likely inflationary. Might be shortages.
Your side hasn't been this mad since Lincoln freed the slaves............
 
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We can examine Chinese immigration in the late 1800's and draw parallels to the present. Robust economy with migrant workers. Then they got rounded up and sequestered. Economy slipped.
Don't know the answer.
This an old abandoned, pre Bannock, Chinese goldmine in Western Montana. Imagine sailing across the Pacific, then going inland 600 or so miles through mostly wilderness, to work this claim with hand tools, in the middle of frozen nowhere in 1860 Montana Territory. Based on the size of the mined area, they gave up on it rather quickly.

My thoughts are, it must have really sucked in 1860 China, to put yourself through all that. Where they moved on to after this, is anyone's guess.

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Your cult leader is mad.
Sad really. Presents a significant weakness of the Dem side to lose to someone you describe as a "[mad] cult leader". 😉

I'm a fan of neither though much less a fan of Harris. To think of a nation that voted in Trump, turned the next election to vote for Biden only to decide Trump is a better choice - again.
Bull Moose Party would sure be nice. In the meantime, Dem leadership better stop whining and look in the mirror.

Regarding the topic tariffs and a cult leader; Another reminder, the mad cult leader initially placed tariffs against China, the Dem Administration added to the mad cult leader's tariffs with the largest tariff increase on China since, and China continued increasing their tariffs against the U.S..
Mind you China has held a significantly higher demand for tariffs over the U.S. until Trump and Biden racheted up tariffs. Now - we are the closest we've been to mutual tariffs with each other.
And the trade war will continue.
Complain all you want over your inflated values, beats the hell out of trillion dollar, boots on the ground proxy wars and our own in countries where China State holds dominant private equity holdings in minerals... minerals, oil... same chit. Necessity demands action.
Reason why I'm okay paying a little more vs losing Americans and fighting a war outside economic trade battling.
 
This an old abandoned, pre Bannock, Chinese goldmine in Western Montana. Imagine sailing across the Pacific, then going inland 600 or so miles through mostly wilderness, to work this claim with hand tools, in the middle of frozen nowhere in 1860 Montana Territory. Based on the size of the mined area, they gave up on it rather quickly.

My thoughts are, it must have really sucked in 1860 China, to put yourself through all that. Where they moved on to after this, is anyone's guess.

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That's pretty cool @BigHornRam
Curious how you determined the history?

I was just reading an article about these Chinese migrant workers. There were a handful of Western states that had significant populations, Montana was one of them. Like it, or not, they were a positive footnote in the history of the West.
 
That's pretty cool @BigHornRam
Curious how you determined the history?

I was just reading an article about these Chinese migrant workers. There were a handful of Western states that had significant populations, Montana was one of them. Like it, or not, they were a positive footnote in the history of the West.
Watching Kung Fu as a kid........jk😁

Stories I heard about the area, then looked up some historical links. Probably the biggest impact of Chinese labor was building the railroads. Depending on your view of manifest destiny, it could be a positive, or negative footnote.
I just think it is what it is.

Edit to add....

This area burned in a forest fire a few years ago, and what was left of the old buildings are now gone. Time marches on.
 
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That's pretty cool @BigHornRam
Curious how you determined the history?

I was just reading an article about these Chinese migrant workers. There were a handful of Western states that had significant populations, Montana was one of them. Like it, or not, they were a positive footnote in the history of the West.
Idaho did as well. They were also heavily involved in gold mining in Hells Canyon.
 
Was a large population in SLO,CA.
Built RR's and cut firewood for it.
Many stayed there and became huge part of the community.
 
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