cgasner1
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My buddy in ak just darted one with a spear from his tree stand dude could have always climbed up in the tree with a spear.Lever gun for me. mtmuley
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My buddy in ak just darted one with a spear from his tree stand dude could have always climbed up in the tree with a spear.Lever gun for me. mtmuley
lmfao side hammerAnimal or side hammer?
Ill bring it by one nightlmfao side hammer
lets do it!Ill bring it by one night
but Randy could pressure those mutual sponsors to clean up their act or end the relationship so as not to pass on the stink
I brought that up before with regards to him going on sponsor hunts with Brian call; the response was basically “that’s not my issue and he doesn’t talk to sponsors regarding relationships”.
I fully think hunters need to be the ones cleaning up our ranks and not allowing others to do it for us
TS Customs? Was considering him for some work and then when I found out he was associated with MF, told him no and explained why. He flipped out, went into full "didn't you listen to the podcast?" mode, I reminded him that he had my cell number and that I would be more than happy to have an adult conversation, crickets after that.I stopped using my prior preferred gunsmith due to his affiliations with Muley Freak.. Not selling my mathews but wouldn't buy another now that they are on board too. Same for nightforce.
the same reason half the country will vote for a convicted felon this year. People don’t careI try really hard to understand the hunting industry and how wildlife violations are constantly overlooked, and everyone in the industry who can't stop giving the public their thoughts suddenly loses their tongue. I'm reminded of Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
At this point, either everyone in the industry is really dumb, or there's a lot of people that have stuff they want to keep buried and go along to get along. I would entertain a third option, but as of late, nobody has stepped up to the plate. God forbid we speak out against a company that just repackages Cross Fit workouts and markets them to elk hunters from Pennsylvania, Lord knows we need more of those.
The industry I work in is much smaller than the outdoor recreation industry. It's pretty rare that I meet somebody that I don't have a 2nd or 3rd hand connection amongst the largest players. If somebody in my industry did something that ended in state or federal charges, they would be blackballed and shunned immediately, do not pass go, do not collect $200. They would be totally unemployable in my industry. And that's not even including the range of lesser offenses that would have similar career outcomes.
Influencers are a dime a dozen, you can't step foot in Utah or Bozeman without hitting a wannabe hunting show guy with a YouTube channel, you really have to use the guy with multiple convictions and restrictions on where he can produce content for your company because he broke laws?
TS Customs? Was considering him for some work and then when I found out he was associated with MF, told him no and explained why. He flipped out, went into full "didn't you listen to the podcast?" mode, I reminded him that he had my cell number and that I would be more than happy to have an adult conversation, crickets after that.
Erik should go into door to door home security sales or some other LDS MLM, because he's clearly a solid salesman.
So what is the plan? He's been charged multiple times with trespass (which even though poaching charges were technically dropped - illegally harvesting an animal is poaching by the letter of law), then this? I think some of us appreciate the more thoughtful response you posted opposed to a boiler-plate CYA, but at what point is enough? At a certain point sponsors like yourself need to drop support, and not pull any punches on WHY they were dropped.It's definitely my job to log in here and address these concerns. Honestly, we had to take a moment and address the issue on our side. We take full ownership of this and I assure you that distancing ourselves is a priority. We do believe in forgiveness and these unfortunate events hit that home. It's not our place to judge, but it is our place to make decisions that help the hunting community. We have learned and will continue to learn from this.
They just walked into the lions den with that. I’m surprised they even commented back should give them time to move forward before judgingWhich issues are we offering forgiveness for? His first, second or third wildlife conviction? Or is the forgiveness for the continued history of completely classless hunting videos?
Nice ChatGPT response.It's definitely my job to log in here and address these concerns. Honestly, we had to take a moment and address the issue on our side. We take full ownership of this and I assure you that distancing ourselves is a priority. We do believe in forgiveness and these unfortunate events hit that home. It's not our place to judge, but it is our place to make decisions that help the hunting community. We have learned and will continue to learn from this.
I actually give them respect for having the stones to post here.Nice ChatGPT response.