Make the case for federalizing game species

[rjthehunter]

Why is Iowa managing it's deer herd then? By your definition - they own none of them.

By the way, as far as i understand NR landowner tags in Iowa dont exist.

I'd say you can have a responsibility to care for something even if you don't own it. The federal land is there for all to use. Tags and quantities are set by the state. Which is what it is. I imagine it would be a lot for the fed to try and manage 50 states. Although it might make the application and draw process 1000x easier.

I think it's similar to private land ownership in the sense that you can watch deer, create a safe environment with plenty of cover, food, and water, but at the end of the day they might move off your property regardless.

NR landowner tags are available for purchase in Iowa. Which i believe is the way it should be.

 

[Forkyfinder]

I'd say you can have a responsibility to care for something even if you don't own it. The federal land is there for all to use. Tags and quantities are set by the state. Which is what it is. I imagine it would be a lot for the fed to try and manage 50 states. Although it might make the application and draw process 1000x easier.

I think it's similar to private land ownership in the sense that you can watch deer, create a safe environment with plenty of cover, food, and water, but at the end of the day they might move off your property regardless.

NR landowner tags are available for purchase in Iowa. Which i believe is the way it should be.

Lol the feds make paperwork easier? Thats gotta be the best one ive heard yet lol.

 

[Forkyfinder]

I'd say you can have a responsibility to care for something even if you don't own it. The federal land is there for all to use. Tags and quantities are set by the state. Which is what it is. I imagine it would be a lot for the fed to try and manage 50 states. Although it might make the application and draw process 1000x easier.

I think it's similar to private land ownership in the sense that you can watch deer, create a safe environment with plenty of cover, food, and water, but at the end of the day they might move off your property regardless.

NR landowner tags are available for purchase in Iowa. Which i believe is the way it should be.

Iowa Nonresident Hunting Application

Maybe im missing something - where is that the case? Says you still need to APPLY for a tag.

 

[rjthehunter]

Lol the feds make paperwork easier? Thats gotta be the best one ive heard yet lol.

It would be consistent across all states then. Never said it would be easy. Just easier. Easier than managing different systems for every state you want to apply to. Hell, maybe you could apply to all the states you want from 1 system.

Iowa Nonresident Hunting Application

Maybe im missing something - where is that the case? Says you still need to APPLY for a tag.

I could be missing something too. I don't know Iowa's regulations very well, it looks like they have preference if they prove landownership every year though. Regardless, it doesn't really relate to the discussion about federal lands as only .3% of Iowa is federal land.

https://publications.iowa.gov/34876/1/nonres_deer_guide.pdf

 

[Forkyfinder]

It would be consistent across all states then. Never said it would be easy. Just easier. Easier than managing different systems for every state you want to apply to. Hell, maybe you could apply to all the states you want from 1 system.


I could be missing something too. I don't know Iowa's regulations very well, it looks like they have preference if they prove landownership every year though. Regardless, it doesn't really relate to the discussion about federal lands as only .3% of Iowa is federal land.

https://publications.iowa.gov/34876/1/nonres_deer_guide.pdf

Oh it does relate.

You (public lands owner) feel entiteled to tags because of the ground the game stands on. Im using iowa as an example, because sole ownership of thousands of acres doesnt entitle a NR to a tag there. Why would western states be different? Iowa doesnt even give their NR landowners priority on tags, except for antlerless.

 

[Straight Arrow]

Although making the case for federalizing seems a silly proposition and Treeshark has not even responded, the banter and links presented by rj and Forky provide some good entertainment, esp when you add in a sprinking of Shed God.

 

[Forkyfinder]

Although making the case for federalizing seems a silly proposition and Treeshark has not even responded, the banter and links presented by rj and Forky provide some good entertainment, esp when you add in a sprinking of Shed God.

Hey i just wanted them to have their own thread for it.

 

[rjthehunter]

Oh it does relate.

You (public lands owner) feel entiteled to tags because of the ground the game stands on. Im using iowa as an example, because sole ownership of thousands of acres doesnt entitle a NR to a tag there. Why would western states be different? Iowa doesnt even give their NR landowners priority on tags, except for antlerless.

I don't recall calling Iowa's system great. I think it's stupid for Iowa to not give NR landowners the opportunity to purchase tags to hunt on their own land. I don't care if it's eastern, midwestern, or western states. I think landowners should be able to hunt their land regardless of R or NR status, in any state.

Except for antlerless. So there is some landowner preference.

 

[BackofBeyond]

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Nope, upon further review that last one is, in fact, fly chit.

 

[cgasner1]

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Nope, upon further review that last one is, in fact, fly chit.

They need to get this thread back on track. So let’s say ht’er A wants to box ht’er B and is willing to pay the money for it. At the same time though ht’er B wants to box ht’er C and is willing to pay the money for it how do we settle that? I know we got a couple legends on here that would bring some good money in. Problem is they may wanna pay the money to box someone else

 

[brockel]

If it doesn't change be professional killers. On the borders. U should be.

Doesn't change. Cwd is a private land problem that extends to the public. Ruby valley my backyard. Private crested cwd but also why may mule deer survived fwp. Strange.

What if everyone worked together. For the wildlife.

I seen a 330 340 bull pic tonight. Killed in a pivot. Great bull. The hunt I think gay. But way of the world.

 

[manitou1]

Anything the Feds touch goes to crap... so there's that.

 

[BackofBeyond]

They need to get this thread back on track. So let’s say ht’er A wants to box ht’er B and is willing to pay the money for it. At the same time though ht’er B wants to box ht’er C and is willing to pay the money for it how do we settle that? I know we got a couple legends on here that would bring some good money in. Problem is they may wanna pay the money to box someone else

Round Robin maybe?

Better yet, instead of fighting a specific HT’er we have a set fee (for the wildlife of course.) Then a select committee of HT’ers not involved in the fight rank the participants. Seed it like any typical tournament. For the wildlife, of course.

Potentially could have a “call out” period prior to seeding, like for street racing - if you get called out (first come first serve) that’s your first round fight.

Edit to add: you call out, you double your entrance fee. You know, for the wildlife.

#conservation

 

[cgasner1]

Round Robin maybe?

Better yet, instead of fighting a specific HT’er we have a set fee (for the wildlife of course.) Then a select committee of HT’ers not involved in the fight rank the participants. Seed it like any typical tournament. For the wildlife, of course.

Potentially could have a “call out” period prior to seeding, like for street racing - if you get called out (first come first serve) that’s your first round fight.

Edit to add: you call out, you double your entrance fee. You know, for the wildlife.

#conservation

We definitely need @Shed God for the announcer. Probably should just do like a single 3 min round no hits below the waist.

 

[BackofBeyond]

no hits below the waist.

Nay says I.

Nut Sluggin’ allowed at 3x entrance fee per occurrence - to be collected on the spot while the nut sluggee recovers.

For the Wildlife.

 

[cgasner1]

Nay says I.

Nut Sluggin’ allowed at 3x entrance fee per occurrence - to be collected on the spot while the nut sluggee recovers.

For the Wildlife.

Aim small miss small…..for the wildlife

 

[Irrelevant]

https://www.umt.edu/bolle-center/files/fishwildlifemanagementonfederallands.pdf

 

[cgasner1]

Couple matches probably look a lot like this one. https://www.reddit.com/r/Smilepleasse/s/lSxTeZf3i8

 

[Straight Arrow]

https://www.umt.edu/bolle-center/files/fishwildlifemanagementonfederallands.pdf

Time frame? Something about this rings "old news, deja vu" bridge to nowhere.

 

[Irrelevant]

Time frame? Something about this rings "old news, deja vu" bridge to nowhere.

It is simply a group of people with more than just HT handles that make some relevant and historical points regarding federal management.