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Criticisms of pastor apply to mosque-builders, too
Saturday, September 18, 2010 02:57 AM

The universal condemnation of the fringe pastor who threatened to burn the Quran highlights all that is wrong with the hypocritical progressive movement. Had this pastor wanted to burn an American flag, the American Civil Liberties Union would have been right there, offering him a lighter.

Had the pastor wanted to remove a Nativity scene from a city park, the ACLU would drive the moving truck. Had the pastor wanted to sue the Boy Scouts, the ACLU would award him a merit badge of honor. Had this pastor been responsible for the slaughter of thousands of innocent lives and was about to be interrogated by the CIA, the ACLU would be right there with a life preserver and towel to dry him off.

Had this pastor expressed himself in a manner that was more anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-CIA, anti-military or anti-anything that makes America great, the ACLU would have rushed to his aid. But over this issue, the ACLU remains silent.

Why? Because the ACLU stands for one and only one thing: pushing a progressive-Marxist agenda. The purpose of the ACLU, as with most progressive groups, isn't to deliver truth and equal justice; it is to undermine the American system.

Last week, almost all of America, conservative and liberal, condemned the pastor. Almost all of America recognized his threat as irresponsible, inflammatory, dangerous, immature, outrageous and insensitive, and they said so.

Americans spoke with one voice that he may have the “right” to burn the Quran, but as an American, he had the “responsibility” not to. Americans simply don't do those things. Unfortunately, that same message America sent to the pastor is just as applicable to the builders of the proposed mosque near ground zero, but the progressives aren't as quick to condemn the building of the mosque; in fact, many marched in support, carrying manufactured signs accusing those who oppose it of racism.

Americans never would support the building of a monument to the Japanese Air Force at Pearl Harbor, a monument to the Ku Klux Klan in Harlem or a monument to the Nazis in Arlington National Cemetery, and no American would support the building of a triumphal mosque near ground zero. Everything America rightfully accused the pastor of applies to the builders of the mosque, as well, only thousands of times over.

No one dies from the burning of a Quran, while thousands of fellow Americans died on 9/11. The builders of the mosque may have the right to build that mosque, but if they claim to be part of the American family, they have a responsibility not to build it and would feel as much pain about the decision as the families who lost loved ones on 9/11.

America is a melting pot, not an a-la-carte line. If people immigrate here, refuse to assimilate and fail to understand and accept what it means to be an American, we can expect this mosque to be a sign of the America we will become, where we no longer are Americans and we become a nation of hyphenated tribes, dividing America and ultimately tearing it apart.

Great nations never are conquered from without until they have destroyed themselves from within. United we stand; divided we will surely fall.

ROBERT M. WAGNER

Columbus

http://www.dispatch.com/live/conten...tor-apply-to-mosque-builders-too.html?sid=101
 
I personally wouldn't support the burning of the Quran. As much as I don't like terrorist, I don't have anythnig against the Muslum religion. It's the Extreamist and terrorists that I don't like.

Burning the Quran would be grouping people together and not hitting the right source. It definately opens up many can's of worms. It's like gonig after all mexicans , and not jsut the illegal ones. And we all know you jsut want the illegal ones out, right ?

Jsut my thoughts.
 
I agree Moosie like with most things it's the bad apples that seem to set the precident for a group. Unfortenatly even when you target those bad apples the whole group gets upset.
 
Where's all the good muslims saying it's a bad idea to build a mosque next to ground zero? Just sayin....

By the way, I am against burning any book
 
WV, Why should a Good Muslim think it's a bad Idea ? That would be like a Legal Immigrant thinknig it's a bad Idea to put a Hispanic Center by the border.

I don't watch the News much but I think it was Terrorist and Extreamists that bombed the towers, wasn't it ? Or was it the Muslims ?
 
Where's all the good muslims saying it's a bad idea to build a mosque next to ground zero? Just sayin....

By the way, I am against burning any book

Why is it a bad idea???

And how far is acceptable to you? 2 blocks? 4 blocks? 6 blocks? 8 blocks?


Do you agree with CJ's nutcase article that it is a "triumphal mosque near ground zero" or do you think that might be Faux News type hyperbole designed to instill fear in people like you and CJ?
 
At the risk of throwing fuel on the fire and possibly upsetting someone; I think if the truth about the building were stressed it would be less of a bone of contention. The word I have outside of the hate mongers is that it is a community building which also has the two top floors for prayer. Now we can read what we want into or out of that info, but bottom line is that it is offensively close to what is becoming or has become a national shrine; a painful reminder of a day and an event perpetrated by and carried out by muslim extremists, some of the most amoral, narrow-minded, cowardly, godless pieces of human crap ever to draw air. If anyone wants to know just exactly how I feel about it just drop a PM.
 
I believe they have every right to build that mosque there, the same right as any church. Thank God we live in a country where that can't be debated. Congress shall pass no law...and all that. My opinion is it's bad judgment and either not much thought went into the decision to build there or they are being spiteful.

Fox News sells fear the same as all the other news channels. I can't stand that whiney crybaby Beck anymore than I can stand that other man Rachel Maddow or woman Keith Obelrman.

I am not saying that all muslims are terrorists but I don't recall any muslims condemning the attacks on 9/11. Seems to be no shortage of these extremists either, enough to run countries and fight wars in the name of jihad and all that.

I don't remember any illegal mexicans killing 3000 people in one day either.

Maybe you guys can head to Mecca and build an LDS church and let me know how that works out for you. :D
 
offensively close to what is becoming or has become a national shrine; .


How close does it not become "painful" to you? Is building a mosque in Murfeesboro, Tennesse "too close" to the "shrine"?

Do you support the takings of property rights to prevent property owners from being able to use their land as it is permitted?
 
I believe they have every right to build that mosque there, the same right as any church. Thank God we live in a country where that can't be debated. Congress shall pass no law...and all that. My opinion is it's bad judgment and either not much thought went into the decision to build there or they are being spiteful.

How is it "bad judgement" to build community centers where you have a "community"? Do you think muslims who live in lower Manhattan shouldn't be allowed to have a local community center? How far away should they be required to build it? 4 blocks? 8 blocks? 16 blocks? 32 blocks? How about as far as Murfeesboro, TN? Do you think they should be allowed to build a mosque there?


I am not saying that all muslims are terrorists but I don't recall any muslims condemning the attacks on 9/11. Seems to be no shortage of these extremists either, enough to run countries and fight wars in the name of jihad and all that.
Do you actually know any muslims and are you claiming that all the muslims you know refused to condem the attacks?

I don't remember any illegal mexicans killing 3000 people in one day either.
What about right-wing nut white christians? Do you remember any of them committing terrorst attacks and killing Americans? Do you have an equal concern for where Chrisitans build their "centers" since they have been known to perform terrorist attacks?



Maybe you guys can head to Mecca and build an LDS church and let me know how that works out for you. :D
Do you have concerns of other religious groups besides mormons and muslims who have a history of mass-murder and terrorism?
 
How is it "bad judgement" to build community centers where you have a "community"? Do you think muslims who live in lower Manhattan shouldn't be allowed to have a local community center? How far away should they be required to build it? 4 blocks? 8 blocks? 16 blocks? 32 blocks? How about as far as Murfeesboro, TN? Do you think they should be allowed to build a mosque there?

My first sentence says that I think they have the right to build it there. You're just to blind to see that.


Do you actually know any muslims and are you claiming that all the muslims you know refused to condem the attacks?

I don't know any but I don't recall seeing them lined up on TV denouncing the terrorists acts.

What about right-wing nut white christians? Do you remember any of them committing terrorst attacks and killing Americans? Do you have an equal concern for where Chrisitans build their "centers" since they have been known to perform terrorist attacks?

Who are we talking about now? The branch dravidians? LOL, they weren't terrorists. White Nut so called Christians I will agree with.

Maybe you mean Timothy Mcvay? Right Wing White Nut Terrorist in deed, I hope he is burning in hell. I have no idea what is religious beliefs were.


Do you have concerns of other religious groups besides mormons and muslims who have a history of mass-murder and terrorism?

I had no idea mormons have a history of mass murder and terrorism. I do know the great John Moses Browning was a mormon so they have that going for them. :D I mean the 1911 handgun design was obviously handed down from God himself. :cool:

Edit: I don't know how to break the quotes down line by line
 
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I personally wouldn't support the burning of the Quran. As much as I don't like terrorist, I don't have anythnig against the Muslum religion. It's the Extreamist and terrorists that I don't like.

Burning the Quran would be grouping people together and not hitting the right source. It definately opens up many can's of worms. It's like gonig after all mexicans , and not jsut the illegal ones. And we all know you jsut want the illegal ones out, right ?

Jsut my thoughts.

1st some "FACTS"... [W.V hunter].You said..[.I don't remember any illegal mexicans killing 3000 people in one day either]

your right not in one day... but 10x that in the last 20 yrs..

Moosie I agree with you... This is more about the A.C.L.U. and why don't they "DEFEND" the nutty florida preacher?

JOSE.. did this all go over your head also?
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Is it ok to say phu*k in HT's quasi political fireside?...if so, phu*k Rauf & his phony interfaith outreach bullshite.
 
[ I like this part]

America is a melting pot, not an a-la-carte line. If people immigrate here, refuse to assimilate and fail to understand and accept what it means to be an American, we can expect this mosque to be a sign of the America we will become, where we no longer are Americans and we become a nation of hyphenated tribes, dividing America and ultimately tearing it apart.

[ Asking Jose]
Why does the A.C.L.U. go after Christians? Mormons? and other churches? they seem to put the Koran Burning on the ignore list?.. shouldn't they Defend the whacky florida preacher? ..


They love to go after "in God we trust"...... 10 commandments... Nativity scenes... Xmas ..as a Holiday etc,etc...
 
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My first sentence says that I think they have the right to build it there. You're just to blind to see that.

Then you called it "bad judgement". What makes it "bad judgement" to provide a community center in the center of your community? Do you no longer think it is "bad judgement"?


How far would become "good judgement"? 2 blocks? 4 blocks? 6 blocks? 22 blocks? 600 miles?


I don't know any but I don't recall seeing them lined up on TV denouncing the terrorists acts.
You don't actually know any muslims, so now you are relying on your memory of what you watched on TV 9 years ago?? Do you rely on TV for all your information on what muslims feel?

Here are many groups that issued condemnations on the day of the attacks.
AMC Deplores The Attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon

(WASHINGTON, DC - 9/11/2001) The American Muslim Council (AMC) strongly condemns this morning's plane attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and expresses deep sorrow for Americans that were injured and killed. AMC sends out its condolence to all victims of this cowardly terrorist attack. There is no cause that justifies this type of an immoral and inhumane act that has affected so many innocent American lives. AMC supports all efforts of the investigation in order to track down the people responsible for this tragic act of terrorism.

The American Muslim Political Coordination Council (AMPCC) issued a statement which reads:
"American Muslims utterly condemn what are apparently vicious and cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians. We join with all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators. No Political cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts."

The AMPCC consists of AMC, Council on American-Islamic Relations, American Muslim Alliance and Muslim Public Affairs Council.




FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - 9/11/01

The Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), condemns in the strongest possible way the heinous and horrific acts of terrorism that occurred in New York City and Washington, D.C.,
this morning.

The American Muslim community is united in its support to the law enforcement agencies in bringing the culprits to justice. We join our fellow citizens in this moment of grief and sorrow.

We urge all to donate blood for the victims at their local blood centers. Our hearts are with those who have lost loved ones in this terrible tragedy and our prayers are with the departed souls.

URGENT APPEAL, PLEASE HELP, WE NEED MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND NURSES VOLUNTEER TO PROVIDE HELP FOR THE VICTIMS IN NYC

ICNA RELIEF WILL PROVIDE FOOD AND RESIDENCE, PLEASE DONATE BLOOD FOR THE VICTIMS

CONTACT US AT 718 658 7028, ICNA Relief, 166-26 89th Ave., Jamaica, NY 11432

For Immediate Release
September 11, 2001

AMERICAN MUSLIMS CONDEMN TERRORIST ATTACKS

Islamic Shura (Consultative) Council of Southern California (ISCSC) on the behalf of all Masajid (Mosques) and Muslim community in Southern California joining Muslims around the country to condemns the latest cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians.

We join with all our fellow Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators. No cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts."

We offer our sincere and heartfelt condolences to the families of the
victims of those who were killed or injured. We pray to God, the Cherisher of all people to bestow His mercy upon all & help us in patience to overcome this catastrophe. We pray that those who love God will take this opportunity to put their hands together to bring the values of love, decency, fairness and Justice back into our lives.

We also urge the media to exercise restraint, and to act responsibly when reporting on these terrorist attacks. Until the perpetrators are brought to justice, all media reports should be accurate, restrained and sensitive.

The Islamic Shura Council is inviting all religious leaders of all faiths to a prayer meeting at the City of Pasadena Auditorium at 11:00 am on East Green Street. Many religious leaders of all faiths have already accepted to participate.

God Bless America.

PRESS RELEASE: MUSLIM THINK TANK CONDEMNS APPARENT TERRORIST ATTACKS

Minaret of Freedom Institute
4323 Rosedale Avenue, Bethesda, MD 20814


MUSLIM THINK TANK CONDEMNS APPARENT TERRORIST ATTACKS ASKS MUSLIMS TO DONATE BLOOD AND MONEY TO AID VICTIMS AND FAMILIES

Bethesda, MD (September 11, 2001). The Minaret of Freedom Institute, a Washington, DC area Islamic policy research institute today condemned the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad, President of the organization, denounced the attacks and expressed condolences for the victims and their families. "For American Muslims the unprecedented coordinated attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon is a triple tragedy," Ahmad said. "As Americans, our country is under attack. As Muslims, the tragedy of attacks on noncombatants is anathema to us. Finally, as the 'usual suspects' in a situation of this type we must be concerned with a new acceleration of persecution against us and our families."

Ahmad noted that a number of Muslim organizations have already stepped forward to serve as good neighbors. Both the Islamic-American Zakat Foundation, a Bethesda, Maryland charitable organization and the American Muslim Foundation in Alexandria, Virginia NGO are organizing blood drives to help out with the crisis caused by the violence. Ahmad also acknowledged the care being given by local law enforcement agencies to protect all citizens from violent acts that might be sparked by frustration over this morning's attacks. In particular he noted special efforts by the Montgomery County police in Maryland to contact Muslim organizations. Ahmad expressed concern that amid recent vilification of the American Muslim community by commentators Daniel Pipes and Steven Emerson, the FBI has recently devoted resources to shutting down Islamic web sites when such resources might have been better allocated to protect against problems like today's attacks. "I hope the authorities will be able to identify the planners and perpetrators of these crimes and bring them to justice," Ahmad said.

The Minaret of Freedom Institute (MFI), located in the Washington, DC area, is dedicated to research and educational efforts regarding Islamic law and Muslim history. MFI summarizes its purposes as: to "counter distortions and misconceptions about Islamic law and practice; demonstrate the Islamic origins of [certain] modern values ...; expose both American and Islamic world Muslims to free market thought; [and] advance the status of Muslim peoples maligned by a hostile environment in the West and oppressed by repressive political regimes in the East." Dr. Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad is co-editor with Ahmed Yousef of Islam and the West: A Dialog.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - 9/11/01

SHARI'A SCHOLARS ASSOCIATION OF NORTH AMERICA (SSANA) CONDEMNS TERRORIST ATTACKS

(Detroit, MI - 9/11/2001) The Shari'a Scholars Association of North America (SSANA) strongly condemn this morning's plane attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and expresses its deep sorrow for Americans that were injured and killed. SSANA send out its condolence to all victims of this cowardly terrorist attack. There is no cause that justifies this type of an immoral and inhumane act that has affected so many innocent Amercian lives. SSANA supports all efforts to investigate and immediately capture the evil persons responsible for these immoral can cowardly acts. Certainly, there is no justification for these acts from either an Islamic perspective or, in truth, from the perspective of any other moral and freedom-loving people. These acts diminish the freedom of all Americans, including American Muslims. Our condolence go out to all of the victims of these inhumane acts.

Do you still believe that no muslims condemned the attacks?


Who are we talking about now? The branch dravidians? LOL, they weren't terrorists. White Nut so called Christians I will agree with.

Maybe you mean Timothy Mcvay? Right Wing White Nut Terrorist in deed, I hope he is burning in hell. I have no idea what is religious beliefs were.
Do you agree that no Christian Churches should be built anywhere near sites of Chrisitian terrorist attacks?
 
I had no idea mormons have a history of mass murder and terrorism. I do know the great John Moses Browning was a mormon so they have that going for them. :D I mean the 1911 handgun design was obviously handed down from God himself. :cool:
Earlier your you claimed ignorance in knowing what Muslims said/did after Sept 11 but still were able to rush to judgement and call it "bad judgement" to build a community center. Now, you claim ignorance in actions by Mormons, but yet you refrain to call for them being denied rights to build indoctrination centers within mere feet of schools with innocent children in them.

How do you decide which religions you are intolerant of and which ones you turn a blind-eye toward?



And more condemnation that you were ignorant to......
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - 9/11/01

U.S. MUSLIMS CONDEMN TERRORIST ATTACKS

(WASHINGTON, DC - 9/11/2001) - The American Muslim Political Coordination Council (AMPCC), today condemned the apparent terrorist attacks in New York and Washington and offered condolences to the families of those who were killed or injured.

The AMPCC statement read in part:

"American Muslims utterly condemn what are apparently vicious and cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians. We join with all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators. No political cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts."

Leaders of the American Muslim Political Coordination Council (AMPCC) held a meeting in Washington, DC, on Tuesday, September 11, 2001, to issue the following points related to the terrorist attacks:

1) We assert unequivocal condemnation based on our religious values and our identity as American Muslims;

2) We do not need to defend every maniacal incident emanating from the Muslim world or the Muslim community, just as other religious groups need not defend their extremists;

3) We offer compassion to the victims and solidarity with all Americans in the face of danger;

4) Notwithstanding the disbelief that anyone following the faith of Islam could commit such a heinous crime, we condemn the act regardless of the identity of the perpetrators;

5) We deplore the irresponsible reporting that twists the realities and complexities of the Muslim world in order to project only anti-American sentiment during this disturbing period when we are all attempting to move beyond the state of mourning for the national tragedy;

6) We warn against opportunists who will exploit the misery and hysteria of the public in order to promote a political agenda aimed at tarnishing the name of Islam and Muslims;

7) We should not diminish our resolve to be active in protecting the civil liberties of all Americans and struggling for justice both locally and globally;

8) We need to organize activities to help the victims medically, psychologically and in every other way we can.


(WASHINGTON, DC - 9/11/2001) The American Muslim Council (AMC) is urging all Muslims to come together in this time of tragedy. AMC today condemned the cowardly terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington and expressed its condolences to the families of innocent people killed. This horrific violent incident disturbs American Muslims.

AMC wants all law enforcement officials to be cognizant of the fact that at times like these, there are some acts of violence perpetrated against Islamic Centers and Muslims of our communities. We are confident that authorities will protect all men, women and children. We hope to prevent the acts of violence directed towards Muslims and Islamic Centers. American Muslims experienced violent attacks and verbal harassment in the aftermath of the Oklahoma City Bombing when our fellow citizens rushed to judgment about the perpetrators of the crime. We urge our fellow Americans not to be quick to stereotype Muslims, who are also suffering at this traumatic time. We, like all Americans, want to feel secure and want to see the perpetrators brought to justice. Enough innocent lives have been killed today.

Contact: Farkhunda Ali, Communications Director
(202) 789-2262 ext. 205, [email protected]
American Muslims for Jerusalem Condemns the Terrorist Attacks

(Washington, DC 9/11/01) - Joining the Muslim community around the country, the Washington based American Muslims for Jerusalem (AMJ) is appalled and strongly condemns the terrorist attacks in New York, Washington, and other parts of the country. AMJ sends out its deepest condolences to the families of the victims of these cowardly attacks.

As Muslims we utterly deplore these heinous and barbaric acts and hope for the quick apprehension and swift applications of justice. We also urge the media to exercise restraint, act responsibly when reporting, and not rush to judgment. Until the perpetrators are identified and brought to justice, all media reports should be accurate, restraint, and sensitive.

AMJ calls on Muslims nationwide to offer every assistance they can to help the victims of today's terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, D.C. Muslims in local communities should take the following IMMEDIATE ACTIONS:

* Muslim medical professionals are asked to go to the scenes of the attacks to offer aid and comfort to the victims.
* Muslim relief agencies should contact their counterparts to offer support in the recovery efforts.
* Individual Muslims should donate blood by contacting the local office of the Red Cross. (Call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE.) They should also send donations to those relief agencies that are on the scene of the attacks.

American Muslims for Jerusalem
Tel (202)548-4200, Fax (202)548-4201




MUSLIMS OFFER HELP FOR VICTIMS OF TERRORIST ATTACKS

(WASHINGTON, DC - 9/11/2001) - The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a prominent Washington-based Islamic advocacy group, is calling on Muslims nationwide to offer whatever assistance they can to help the victims of today's terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, D.C.

In an alert to the American Muslim community, CAIR suggested that the following actions be taken:
Muslim medical professionals are asked to go to the scenes of the attacks to offer aid and comfort to the victims.
Muslim relief agencies should contact their counterparts to offer support in the recovery efforts.
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Individual Muslims should donate blood by contacting the local office of the Red Cross. (Call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE.) They should also send donations to those relief agencies that are on the scene of the attacks.
CAIR's alert asked community members to report incidents of anti-Muslim harassment or attacks. It also suggested steps to take to increase security around mosques and Islamic centers. (In the first few days following the 1995 attack on the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma, Muslims reported more than 200 incidents of harassment, threats and actual violence. CAIR has already received reports of harassment and attacks against Muslims who wear Islamic attire.)

Security precautions suggested by CAIR's alert include:
Those who wear Islamic attire should consider staying out of public areas for the immediate future.
Request additional police patrols in the vicinity of mosques.
Post mosque members at entrances and parking areas during prayer times.
Report suspicious packages to police.
Document descriptions of suspicious people or vehicles.
There are an estimated seven million Muslims in America and some 1.2 billion worldwide. Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in this country and around the world.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

ISNA CONDEMNS TERRORIST ATTACKS

(Plainfield, IN - 9/11/2001) - The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) joins Muslim Americans and all Americans in expressing its deep sorrow over the apparently deliberate air-crashes in New York and Washington, DC that have led to the loss of countless innocent lives.

ISNA joins Muslim organizations throughout North America in condemning theses apparent terrorist attacks and calls upon Muslim Americans to come forward with their skills and resources to help alleviate the sufferings of the affected people and their families.

ISNA condemns these apparently senseless acts of terrorism against innocent civilians, which will only be counterproductive to any agenda the perpetrators may have had in mind. No political cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts.

We join with all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators, and call upon our justice system to maintain strict standards of justice and fairness in these trying times.

We also urge the media to exercise restraint, and to act responsibly when reporting on these terrorist attacks. Until the perpetrators are brought to justice, all media reports should be accurate, restrained and sensitive. Let us pray to God that He may Guide us all to keep firm in following our principles and offer relief to the victims of violence wherever they may be.

- END -

CONTACT: Dr. Sayyid M. Syeed, Secretary General of ISNA
TEL: 317-839-8157 ext 222 Email: [email protected]

Signatories:

American Muslim Alliance, American Muslim Council, Association of Muslim Scientists and Engineers, Association of Muslim Social Scientists, Council on American-Islamic Relations, Islamic Medical Association of North America, Islamic Circle of North America, Islamic Society of North America, Ministry of Imam W. Deen Mohammed, Muslim American Society, Muslim Public Affairs Council
 
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Moosie I agree with you... This is more about the A.C.L.U. and why don't they "DEFEND" the nutty florida preacher?

JOSE.. did this all go over your head also?
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CJ,

Just exactly what charges does the nutty florida preacher need "defended" from??? There was never any legal case for the ACLU to intervene.

Are you expecting the ACLU to be jumping in front of cameras every time some nut case makes a stupid statement? That seems more like Sarah Palin's role.
 
Maybe you guys can head to Mecca and build an LDS church and let me know how that works out for you. :D

Imma gunna pass on that one. But Mecca isn't the Land of the Free. They do let you have Harums there I guess so it is kinda like the Good ol' days ;)
 
"We also urge the media to exercise restraint, and to act responsibly when reporting on these terrorist attacks. Until the perpetrators are brought to justice, all media reports should be accurate, restrained and sensitive. Let us pray to God that He may Guide us all to keep firm in following our principles and offer relief to the victims of violence wherever they may be."


since when do muslims pray to God?
 
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