Illegal Thermal Use

[bigsky2]

The FLIR system I got to play with 15 years ago was sensitive enough to see farts in the hangar and find recently disturbed earth from the air, and it was already 10 years old and considered nearly obsolete at the time.

Watching for farts in a busy public place would be too much fun.

 

[Benfromalbuquerque]

 

[INMT]

Hunttalk talking about that damn technology from their technology. Place gets more ridiculous all the time. Getting to be a tough place to hang out. Feel like I’m at the coffee shop with the old timers always pissing and moaning about something
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To each their own

 

[Deez Nutz]

Speaking of unkosher technological advances, I’m thinking of starting a door dash service for backcountry hunters. Inreach me an order and I’ll fly a hot pizza and buffalo wings into your backcountry camp and chuck it out the door with a small parachute. Now how much would you pay for that?

You think I’m joking.

 

[Benfromalbuquerque]

Dozen traditional extra crispy with that mango habanero? $27+$10 tip.

 

[BrentD]

The FLIR system I got to play with 15 years ago was sensitive enough to see farts in the hangar and find recently disturbed earth from the air, and it was already 10 years old and considered nearly obsolete at the time.

In the Old Guy Stories category, back in 1987, when I was a postdoc in Oslo, we got to see some video made with obsolete night surveillance gear that the Israeli military was peddling to biologists. We watched video of gerbils at over 40 meters, feeding on seeds under shrubs and grass and we could see their front toes on the seeds. It was unreal stuff, but it was obsolete to the point they were selling it to anyone that could pay (it may have been "obsolete" in their world, but it still was not affordable).

 

[Nick87]

Speaking of unkosher technological advances, I’m thinking of starting a door dash service for backcountry hunters. Inreach me an order and I’ll fly a hot pizza and buffalo wings into your backcountry camp and chuck it out the door with a small parachute. Now how much would you pay for that?

You think I’m joking.

Drone.

 

[devon deer]

Have you ever used a thermal for hunting?

@devon deer used one legally in England while I hunted with him. It turned my Swaro optics into useless glass. I stood and watched Richard thermal the surrounding areas. I’d used my glass to try to pick the deer out of the thickets after he found them with the thermal.

In the West, using a thermal to glass a ridge a few minutes will tell you if animals are in the basin. Game changer. There’s no reason to sit on a glassing point for a morning if ten minutes of thermal show no animals.

Thermals will increase kill percentages.

As you experienced with me @brymoore the thermal imager is a game changer for locating deer/vermin.
It does increase your success rate, but the difference being between where I live and where you live are poles apart.
No public hunting, all private here.
We are pickled in deer, anything that makes the culling of deer more efficient isn't frowned upon by the Government.
My thermal is a tool to get the job done, whilst I am a hunter (I think I proved that in Montana) in the main over here I am considered a culler.
The government even issued me a night licence to reduce the deer population in one of my areas, thermal coupled with a day/night vision scope helped a lot.
As you say, you pick a high vantage point, scan for maybe 2 miles, locate, then hunt.
So for me it's efficiency, locate, switch to binos, and either normal glass or day/night scope.
Deer go to either the game dealer, I sell them on, or eat the meat myself.
We are overrun with deer.

 

[Gr8bawana]

Ethics?

 

[wytex]

The fact that they brought them along says it all.

Nope , not at all. I have a FLIR and take it almost everywhere we go while hunting, it stays in my bag. Haven't had it out while hunting in Wyoming at all. I have used it at the ranch to look for varmints.

 

[trackerbacker]

Scent control-kosher
Bait-kosher
Scout bedding/travel routes-kosher
NL Pures [insert high end high mag glass]-kosher
6.5 eargosplittenloudengoboom-kosher
Bugle tube-kosher
Saddle/stands-kosher
Camo-kosher
E-scouting-kosher

All techniques utilized to increase success rates

Crossbow-rape
Thermals-murder

Y'all draw some funny lines in the sand. Half y'all sound like the type that says a color or creed of gun is responsible for school shootings.

ME? Thermals, NV, optical glass, IR, red dot, open iron. Use em all hunting, they all have their use and benefits. Naysayers are either poor, slow or blame being a hipster luddite on their lack of success.

"Oh me? Oh Id only even use the recurve and water drops. Anything beyond natural elements to increase my efficacy is heresy [insert hoity toity hobsnobbling]"

 

[Nick87]

Scout bedding/travel routes-kosher

 

[Mallardsx2]

Scent control-kosher
Bait-kosher
Scout bedding/travel routes-kosher
NL Pures [insert high end high mag glass]-kosher
6.5 eargosplittenloudengoboom-kosher
Bugle tube-kosher
Saddle/stands-kosher
Camo-kosher
E-scouting-kosher

All techniques utilized to increase success rates

Crossbow-rape
Thermals-murder

Y'all draw some funny lines in the sand. Half y'all sound like the type that says a color or creed of gun is responsible for school shootings.

ME? Thermals, NV, optical glass, IR, red dot, open iron. Use em all hunting, they all have their use and benefits. Naysayers are either poor, slow or blame being a hipster luddite on their lack of success.

"Oh me? Oh Id only even use the recurve and water drops. Anything beyond natural elements to increase my efficacy is heresy [insert hoity toity hobsnobbling]"

If a person doesn't think that thermals are an EXTREME advantage while both scouting and hunting big game animals, they need a mental health check.

If a person doesn't think that crossbows offer an EXTREME advantage while archery hunting big game animals, they need a mental health check.

 

[Gut Shot]

Ah! Another Hunttalk thread where we pretend that technology turns people into poachers.

 

[Mallardsx2]

Ah! Another Hunttalk thread where we pretend that technology turns people into poachers.

 

[Nick87]

Naysayers are either poor, slow or blame being a hipster luddite on their lack of success

You'll have to show me where anyone here is having a lack of success or blaming technology for a lack of success? I think I missed it.

 

[ismith]

Scent control-kosher
Bait-kosher
Scout bedding/travel routes-kosher
NL Pures [insert high end high mag glass]-kosher
6.5 eargosplittenloudengoboom-kosher
Bugle tube-kosher
Saddle/stands-kosher
Camo-kosher
E-scouting-kosher

All techniques utilized to increase success rates

Crossbow-rape
Thermals-murder

Y'all draw some funny lines in the sand. Half y'all sound like the type that says a color or creed of gun is responsible for school shootings.

ME? Thermals, NV, optical glass, IR, red dot, open iron. Use em all hunting, they all have their use and benefits. Naysayers are either poor, slow or blame being a hipster luddite on their lack of success.

"Oh me? Oh Id only even use the recurve and water drops. Anything beyond natural elements to increase my efficacy is heresy [insert hoity toity hobsnobbling]"

Is it just me, or does it seem like a lot of these problems could be eliminated by just banning NR hunters?

 

[rogerthat]

Is it just me, or does it seem like a lot of these problems could be eliminated by just banning NR hunters?

Banning stupid posts might also work but than @trackerbacker might need to come up with some new material.

 

[LousyResident]

Is it just me, or does it seem like a lot of these problems could be eliminated by just banning NR hunters?

Counter argument: nearly all poaching is done by residents. Ban resident hunting to preserve the resource.

 

[Sioux33]

Yah, they gotta find a way to get ahead of this BS. I've had a couple run-ins with clowns using thermals and drones right in the middle of archery season and acting like there's nothing wrong with it.

One guy I met at a trailhead walking back in the dark and he was all geared up to hit the ridgetop a couple miles in and scan for elk with his $3k thermal. After talking a bit, it was pretty apparent all he cared about was what he was gonna put on the Gram that hunting season. The other guy was parked at the same spot I was going to walk in from and scout the night before opener, except instead of walking all the way in, he was 100 yards over the hill watching the video of his drone footage looking down into the creek bottoms. Some guys just don't give a shit, but if at least if there's laws on the books we can call TIP MONT and give them a description or license plate number, at the very least. Gotta do something before it's too far gone.