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brodiemcd said:
Here’s my ram for 501, TX mtn hunter and I were able to double up opening morning. Mine aged at 6 yrs old. While packing mine back to camp I had a rock come loose from under me and fell face first into the rocks, breaking my nose. View attachment 239909View attachment 239910View attachment 239911View attachment 239912
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That's one hell of a first post. Sorry to hear about the nose- that's properly broken. I've heard you have to earn an Unlimited ram with blood, sweat, and tears- looks like you're walking proof of that.

But now for the ultimate question- now that you've been successful, would you do it again?
 
R.K. said:
Joined: October 2021. Messages: 1.

That's one hell of a first post. Sorry to hear about the nose- that's properly broken. I've heard you have to earn an Unlimited ram with blood, sweat, and tears- looks like you're walking proof of that.

But now for the ultimate question- now that you've been successful, would you do it again?
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Absolutely. I’ve been following this thread for a few years, just never posted anything. I think this was my 7th or 8th year of hunting the unlimiteds.
 
mountainboat said:
Saw those guys as well. Stupid question but is there a concern for disease transmission?
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Yeah, there is. The science on goat transmission to wild sheep is a bit unsettled from my understanding, but it’s certainly less of a risk than domestic sheep are. However, it’s still a risk and in my opinion, too big of one.
There’s probably more recent, better studies, but I recall looking at one where infected goats and infected domestic sheep were exposed to wild sheep. The goats infected wild sheep at a much lower rate than the domestic sheep did, but there was still disease transmission.

The pack goats were on Boulder Pass, which is an easy 4 mile walk up a nice pack trail. The guys that had them were fit, younger men. Not sure why they even needed the goats. I would think they’d be a bigger PITA than a help.

@Oak can probably add a lot more info on this
 
Here is some information about goats.

Besser, T. E., E. F. Cassirer, K. A. Potter, and W. J. Foreyt. 2018. Exposure of bighorn sheep to domestic
goats colonized with Mycoplasma ovipneumoniae induces sub-lethal pneumonia (vol 12, e0178707, 2017). PLoS One 13. https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0178707.

Cassirer, E. F., K. R. Manlove, R. K. Plowright, and T. E. Besser. 2017. Evidence for strain-specific
immunity to pneumonia in bighorn sheep. Journal of Wildlife Management 81:133–143. http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/jwmg.21172

Drew, M. L., and G. C. Weiser. 2017. Potential disease agents in domestic goats and relevance to bighorn
sheep (Ovis canadensis) management. PLoS One 12:e0173396. https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0173396

Foreyt, W. J. 1994. Effects of controlled contact exposure between healthy bighorn sheep and llamas,
domestic goats, mountain goats, cattle, domestic sheep, or mouflon sheep. Proceedings of the Biennial Symposium of the Northern Wild Sheep and Goat Council 9:7–14. media.nwsgc.org/proceedings/NWSGC-1994/1994-Foreyt.pdf

Foreyt, W. J., E. J. Jenkins, and G. D. Appleyard. 2009. Transmission of lungworms (Muellerius cappilaris)
from domestic goats to bighorn sheep on common pasture. Journal of Wildlife Diseases 45:272–278. https://doi.org/10.7589/0090-3558-45.2.272

Heinse, L. M., L. H. Hardesty, and R. B. Harris. 2016. Risk of pathogen spillover to bighorn sheep from
domestic sheep and goat flocks on private land. Wildlife Society Bulletin 40:625–633. https://doi.org/10.1002/wsb.718.

Jansen B. D, J. R. Heffelfinger, T. H. Noon, P. R. Krausman, and J. C. deVos, Jr. 2006. Infectious
keratoconjuncivitis in bighorn sheep, Silver Bell Mountains, Arizona, USA. Journal of Wildlife Diseases 42:407–411. https://doi.org/10.7589/0090-3558-42.2.407

Kamath, P. L., K. Manlove, E. F. Cassirer, P. C. Cross, and T. E. Besser. 2019. Genetic structure of
Mycoplasma ovipneumoniae informs pathogen spillover dynamics between domestic and wild Caprinae in the western United States. Scientific Reports 9:15318. https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-019-51444-x

Rudolph, K. M., D. L. Hunter, W. J. Foreyt, E. F. Cassirer, R. B. Rimler, and A. C. S. Ward. 2003. Sharing
of Pasteurella spp. between free-ranging bighorn sheep and feral goats. Journal of Wildlife Diseases 39:897–903. https://doi.org/10.7589/0090-3558-39.4.897
 
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