Football General Talk

[BrentD]

Yep and that’s the problem. Most players aren’t getting an Nil deal from Nike or under armour it’s from joes plumbing shop and joes probably not doing it for advertising but because he’s a fan which is short for fanatic so in his mind paying someone $1000 to wear a joes plumbing hat is helping the team win.

So run all NIL's through the NCAA (not the schools). Change it for this one reason.

 

[Gellar]

So run all NIL's through the NCAA (not the schools). Change it for this one reason.

I bet the ncaa would love that so they can get their cut.

 

[BrentD]

I bet the ncaa would love that so they can get their cut.

Fine. Why should they not? They make it possible AND they need to have some leverage on their employees.

 

[VikingsGuy]

Fine. Why should they not? They make it possible AND they need to have some leverage on their employees.

They exist as a loophole to the NCAA prohibition on payments to athletes - so folks have to keep up the pretense to access the loophole. Three choices (i) leave as is; (ii) treat athletes the same as all other students and let them get whatever money they can without need for the pretense; or (iii) have a collective bargaining agreement with the athletes that would lay out the financial rules both can live with. Outside of these, the NCAA is just a big anti-trust machine (hence the court ruling that created the NIL loophole).

 

[Gellar]

Fine. Why should they not? They make it possible AND they need to have some leverage on their employees.

I never said they shouldn’t get a cut. But don’t you think they make enough off them already through ticket sales, apparel sales, increased admissions, etc.

do nfl teams get a cut off their players NIL deals?

 

[VikingsGuy]

do nfl teams get a cut off their players NIL deals?

All taken care of in the collective bargaining agmt and the NFLPA agmt. Some is “combined league revenue” (like jerseys), some is “NFLPA revenue” (like video games) and some is player specific revenue (like Farmers Insurance), depends on the nature of the deal.

 

[Gellar]

All taken care of in the collective bargaining agmt and the NFLPA agmt. Some is “combined league revenue” (like jerseys), some is “NFLPA revenue” (like video games) and some is player specific revenue (like Farmers Insurance), depends on the nature of the deal.

And the average nfl salary is (according to a quick google search) $3.2 million/year which is skewed by the highest of the Salaries. $860k/year is the median of all nfl salaries. If we took the average of all nil deals across the ncaa would it be 3.2 million or even 860k per player? I highly doubt it. And, then to complicate matters we bring in title IX and a collective agreement is not possible.

 

[Sytes]

A side note... this was not an escalation. The fight was a college emotional action that escalated.

 

[Hilljackoutlaw]

As a lifelong bills fan. Headlines like this make me laugh....I'll show you cursed you spoiled bang bang niner gang! Lol

 

[mtmuley]

As a lifelong bills fan. Headlines like this make me laugh....I'll show you cursed you spoiled bang bang niner gang! Lol
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The NFL is a cruel bitch. I wouldn't get your hopes up. mtmuley

 

[TheJason]

Texans OLB Azeez Al-Shaair suspended three games for illegal hit on Trevor Lawrence

 

[mtmuley]

Texans OLB Azeez Al-Shaair suspended three games for illegal hit on Trevor Lawrence

Should have been four. mtmuley

 

[seeth07]

Should have been four. mtmuley

Rest of season and loss of 50% of his salary

 

[BrentD]

Rest of season and loss of 50% of his salary

I think that might be a little overkill, personally, but former player and sports journalist, Dan Zimmerman, advocated that if you cause injury like that, you should sit as long as the person you injured is out. Always found that hard to argue against. But then I also thought that people (Sean Payton) who reward deliberately injuring a player should be banned for life, but instead they get praise and adulation and probably Hall of Fame honors.

 

[mtmuley]

I think that might be a little overkill, personally, but former player and sports journalist, Dan Zimmerman, advocated that if you cause injury like that, you should sit as long as the person you injured is out. Always found that hard to argue against. But then I also thought that people (Sean Payton) who reward deliberately injuring a player should be banned for life, but instead they get praise and adulation and probably Hall of Fame honors.

I listen to a lot of ESPN radio. The commentary from Chris Canty and how the unwritten code of the players works was eye opening. mtmuley

 

[SwaggyD]

I think that might be a little overkill, personally, but former player and sports journalist, Dan Zimmerman, advocated that if you cause injury like that, you should sit as long as the person you injured is out. Always found that hard to argue against. But then I also thought that people (Sean Payton) who reward deliberately injuring a player should be banned for life, but instead they get praise and adulation and probably Hall of Fame honors.

In most cases it is tough to confirm intent. Especially to lower body injuries. This guy was a repeat repeat repeat offender.

 

[SwaggyD]

I listen to a lot of ESPN radio. The commentary from Chris Canty and how the unwritten code of the players works was eye opening. mtmuley

Go on…

 

[mtmuley]

Go on…

Go listen to it. mtmuley

 

[SwaggyD]

Go listen to it. mtmuley

Can’t find it on the Google machine. That’s fine, I won’t lose any sleep.

 

[Southern Elk]

I guess I’m in the minority, but I don’t know how you expect a defender to check up in that situation. You have a QB who decided to run the ball and slide at the last possible second. Part of the blame has to be on Lawrence. He could have slid sooner. Either that or man up and lower your shoulder if you want to be a running back.