CPW Commission updating 80/20 allocation

[Oak]

At their November meeting the CPW Commission will be considering updating 80/20 R/NR hunt codes using a new three-year rolling average. HOWEVER, they are proposing to increase the preference point level to those hunt codes that take 10 or more preference points over that three-year average. There should be 10,000 residents throwing the BS flag on this one. Here is the rulemaking notice.

The email address to submit comments is at the top of the rulemaking notice.

 

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[perma]

Oof

 

[elkduds]

At their November meeting the CPW Commission will be considering updating 80/20 R/NR hunt codes using a new three-year rolling average. HOWEVER, they are proposing to increase the preference point level to those hunt codes that take 10 or more preference points over that three-year average. There should be 10,000 residents throwing the BS flag on this one. Here is the rulemaking notice.

The email address to submit comments is at the top of the rulemaking notice.

Sorry to seem dense. Please explain "proposing to increase the PP level ..." Thanks in advance.

 

[Oak]

Sorry to seem dense. Please explain "proposing to increase the PP level ..." Thanks in advance.

Currently the 80/20 units are those that took 6 or more resident preference points to draw way back when they calculated it. They are proposing to change that to those that now take 10 or more resident preference points to draw over a three-year rolling average (previous three years). The three-year rolling average is good and will eventually result in more licenses. But I think it is BS that they are increasing it from 6 to 10 points.

 

[elkduds]

Currently the 80/20 units are those that took 6 or more resident preference points to draw way back when they calculated it. They are proposing to change that to those that now take 10 or more resident preference points to draw over a three-year rolling average (previous three years). The three-year rolling average is good and will eventually result in more licenses. But I think it is BS that they are increasing it from 6 to 10 points.

So the 'progress' suggested to the Roundtable of using more recent data in determining R/NR ratios is being diluted by moving the 80/20 bar from 6 to 10 pps. Any word on using more recent data for ratios in lesser -point units?

 

[Oak]

So the 'progress' suggested to the Roundtable of using more recent data in determining R/NR ratios is being diluted by moving the 80/20 bar from 6 to 10 pps. Any word on using more recent data for ratios in lesser -point units?

The only information I have is what is in the rulemaking notice that I linked above.

 

[Mudranger1]

It's not surprising at all from the meeting I went to...changing something just to say they "changed " something but not really helping

 

[232401a]

So cute to see CPW trying to understand the nuance of the world around them.

 

[Buffs35]

 

[grasshopper]

It really is time for legislation to solve this once and for all. The greed on the part of all parties is crazy. Cpw makes 50 million more then expenses. Outfitters earn 200k a year, while the median income for resident in rural Colorado is near poverty levels.

 

[Oak]

Here is the data the Commission used when deciding what alternative to move forward.

If the 80/20 hunt codes were updated using the last 3 years of draw statistics and the existing 6 R PP or greater criteria, it would result in a $75,000 financial loss. If they include bear and pronghorn, which currently have no R/NR allocation split, it would be an $86,000 loss.

The rule-making notice says they will be considering to add the R/NR allocation split to bear and pronghorn, and changing the 80/20 cutoff to those hunt codes that take R 10 or more PP to draw. By their analysis, this will result in a "slight revenue gain," as there would be more bear and pronghorn licenses issued to NR, AND more elk licenses to NR!

Updating the hunt code list using the current 6+ PP criteria would result in 468 additional R deer licenses and 790 additional R elk licenses.
Their proposal to update using a 10+ PP criteria will result in 53 additional R deer licenses and 200 fewer R elk licenses.

Meanwhile, CPW had a budget surplus of $52 million on the wildlife side last FY.

How can residents not be beating down the door of the Commission with this proposal?

 

[Oak]

Tl;dr the Commission is proposing to give NR a greater number of the highest demand elk licenses than they currently receive.

 

[Buffs35]

How is it possible that every other western state is limiting nr tags and the idiots at CPW propose increasing nr tag allocation? Incompetence, bribery?

 

[Johnny Bravo]

How is it possible that every other western state is limiting nr tags and the idiots at CPW propose increasing nr tag allocation? Incompetence, bribery?

It's all about $$$$$$

 

[Bigjay73]

CPW doesn't happen to own Vail Resorts, do they?

 

[Oak]

How is it possible that every other western state is limiting nr tags and the idiots at CPW propose increasing nr tag allocation? Incompetence, bribery?

Outfitters have convinced the Commission that they will go out of business and Western Slope communities will dry up and blow away if the Commission reduces the NR allocation at all. You just have to go back and listen to the Commission meetings to see that the outfitters have been pounding them and regular resident hunters have been sitting on their thumbs.

 

[shootbrownelk]

How is it possible that every other western state is limiting nr tags and the idiots at CPW propose increasing nr tag allocation? Incompetence, bribery?

Greed.

 

[David58]

Sounds like CO has looked South to see how NM is screwing residents and pulling $$$ in for connected landowners.

 

[hearteater]

Why is this a bad thing? It seems like one state finally doesn’t have their head up their rear over who funds their states wildlife. Oak loves nonresident dollars pumping money into his raffles for wildlife but if it means more money for wildlife at the cost of his draw odds he throws a fit? What is it more money for wildlife or better draw odds for oak?