SAJ-99
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BS has long been the foundation of every political argument. At least there is consistency in both sides in that they are begging for money.
CO Mountain Lion Ballot Initiative: Continuous Updates
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Yard Sign Update:
Here is the current list of pickup locations for Prop 127 "Vote No" yard signs. All of these locations will be stocked by tomorrow morning 10/3. Get them while they're hot!
Also be sure to remember the businesses that support this fight when you're looking for new gear!
Davis Tent - Denver
Meat Cleaver - Denver
Steve's Meat Market - Arvada
Grandpas Pawn and Gun - Longmont
Rocky Mountain Archery - Fort Collins
Warriors Revolution - Longmont
USA Liberty Arms - Fort Collins
Rocky Mountain Shooters Supply - Fort Collins
Tacticool Arms llc - Greeley
Dan French Taxidermy - Laporte
Cheyenne Mountain Roofing - Colorado Springs
Salida Gun Shop - Salida
Critters R Us - Craig
Traders Rendezvous - Gunnison
Prairie Sporting Goods - Pueblo West
Here is the current list of pickup locations for Prop 127 "Vote No" yard signs. All of these locations will be stocked by tomorrow morning 10/3. Get them while they're hot!
Also be sure to remember the businesses that support this fight when you're looking for new gear!
Davis Tent - Denver
Meat Cleaver - Denver
Steve's Meat Market - Arvada
Grandpas Pawn and Gun - Longmont
Rocky Mountain Archery - Fort Collins
Warriors Revolution - Longmont
USA Liberty Arms - Fort Collins
Rocky Mountain Shooters Supply - Fort Collins
Tacticool Arms llc - Greeley
Dan French Taxidermy - Laporte
Cheyenne Mountain Roofing - Colorado Springs
Salida Gun Shop - Salida
Critters R Us - Craig
Traders Rendezvous - Gunnison
Prairie Sporting Goods - Pueblo West
Commissioners oppose mountain lion hunting ban
Just as they did with the wolf reintroduction ballot question, the Mesa County commissioners have come out against a measure to ban hunting of mountain lions and bobcats.
www.gjsentinel.com
For those of you on the front range, come on down to Grossen Bart Brewery next Monday the 14th at 6 PM to pick up free signs, stickers and a chance to win some prizes while testing your mettle in a game of conservation trivia!
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Might want to show address etc.
Mountain lion attacks man sitting in Colorado outdoor hot tub
A man is recovering after a mountain lion clawed his head at a vacation rental home in Colorado. Wildlife officials say the man and his wife did the right thing in response.
elkduds
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Donated again to HOWL The gloves are off in this fight. 127 opponents are asking for 1000 to attend their Capitol Rally. 3000 would be wonderful.
Please RSVP here so we can make sure we have enough materials for everyone:
Brews Over Ballots: A Conservation Trivia Tailgate
Backcountry Hunters & Anglers is the voice for our wild public lands, waters and wildlife.
www.backcountryhunters.org
My wife and I are planning to be there too.
This is great - it would be greater if there were some businesses that weren't hunting/shooting/dead critter affiliated.
elkduds
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@TOGIE sent me some No on 127 stickers. I'm heading out to place them in Canon City businesses.
Cleanest Only clean thing on my truck.
The most common political yard sign in small conservative Canon City is No on 127. Talked to someone today who is going to the capital Rally against 127 next week.
The most common political yard sign in small conservative Canon City is No on 127. Talked to someone today who is going to the capital Rally against 127 next week.
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Opinion: The Unintended Consequences of Proposition 127
"I call upon you to consider the unintended consequences of ballot-box biology. How are things going for the voter-mandated wolf relocation experiments?"
elkduds
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Westword is a leftish free newspaper in the Denver area. Bravo!Opinion: The Unintended Consequences of Proposition 127
"I call upon you to consider the unintended consequences of ballot-box biology. How are things going for the voter-mandated wolf relocation experiments?"www.westword.com
Take it or leave it but I thought I would share. I sent the following email to the majority of my contacts who I know are CO voters. Feel free to rip from this as you see fit if you are planning to reach out within your networks.
Hi friends,
I am reaching out to encourage you to consider voting NO on Proposition 127 in this election, and to provide info on this topic and ballot initiative. If passed, Prob 127 would ban hunting mountain lions, lynx, and bobcats. As proposed, this would bypass the Colorado Parks and Wildlife's (CPW) ability to use science to manage and support our shared wildlife resources. As a hunter and steward of our public lands, I firmly believe these decisions can only be made based on science and by the experts. Looking at this ballot initiative from a larger perspective, I am also deeply worried about the intersection of hunting bans/anti-hunting sentiments and conservation funding. Money generated from hunting license fees and excise taxes on guns, ammunition and angling equipment provide 60% of the funding for state wildlife agencies, which manage most of the wildlife in the U.S. (full NPR article found here). As fewer Americans hunt or understand it, and we continue to see these types of ballot initiatives in our western states, we seem to be moving in a direction that can end up hurting rather than helping our wildlife and ecosystems.
If Prop 127 passes, it would impact the management of mountain lions and bobcats (lynx is an endangered species in both Colorado and at the federal level so hunting this cat is already prohibited) and the language could set a dangerous precedent for management of other wildlife resources. There is concern within the hunting community that if Prop 127 passed, it will be easier from a legal standpoint to limit CPW and biologists from managing our shared resources and impact hunting regulations for other wild game such as deer, elk, and other common game.
Under the watch of CPW, the population of mountain lions has increased since they took over management oversight in 1965. Current statistics also show that bobcat populations are stable and growing in some areas. Once an issue gets to the ballot, experts in the area are not allowed to weigh in on the topic. However, the attached high-level summary that CPW put together before this became a ballot initiative speaks to the role this agency has in successfully navigating Colorado's rapidly growing population and that impact on animals and the ecosystems. The folks with CPW are the experts on our wild game management plans - not us common voters.
Finally, the terminology with "Trophy Hunting" in this proposition is misleading. Trophy Hunting is already illegal in CO as defined as "wanton waste" laws. Lion hunters are required to prepare the meat to eat just like elk and deer hunters.
Below are some additional resources that I found that may help shed some light on this initiative and I wanted to share it with you all before you cast your votes over the next few weeks. Happy to chat more if you have questions or simply want to talk through this.
CPR
Colorado Sun
Screen shot from CPW page:
Please feel free to forward this to any other Colorado voters you may know.
Hi friends,
I am reaching out to encourage you to consider voting NO on Proposition 127 in this election, and to provide info on this topic and ballot initiative. If passed, Prob 127 would ban hunting mountain lions, lynx, and bobcats. As proposed, this would bypass the Colorado Parks and Wildlife's (CPW) ability to use science to manage and support our shared wildlife resources. As a hunter and steward of our public lands, I firmly believe these decisions can only be made based on science and by the experts. Looking at this ballot initiative from a larger perspective, I am also deeply worried about the intersection of hunting bans/anti-hunting sentiments and conservation funding. Money generated from hunting license fees and excise taxes on guns, ammunition and angling equipment provide 60% of the funding for state wildlife agencies, which manage most of the wildlife in the U.S. (full NPR article found here). As fewer Americans hunt or understand it, and we continue to see these types of ballot initiatives in our western states, we seem to be moving in a direction that can end up hurting rather than helping our wildlife and ecosystems.
If Prop 127 passes, it would impact the management of mountain lions and bobcats (lynx is an endangered species in both Colorado and at the federal level so hunting this cat is already prohibited) and the language could set a dangerous precedent for management of other wildlife resources. There is concern within the hunting community that if Prop 127 passed, it will be easier from a legal standpoint to limit CPW and biologists from managing our shared resources and impact hunting regulations for other wild game such as deer, elk, and other common game.
Under the watch of CPW, the population of mountain lions has increased since they took over management oversight in 1965. Current statistics also show that bobcat populations are stable and growing in some areas. Once an issue gets to the ballot, experts in the area are not allowed to weigh in on the topic. However, the attached high-level summary that CPW put together before this became a ballot initiative speaks to the role this agency has in successfully navigating Colorado's rapidly growing population and that impact on animals and the ecosystems. The folks with CPW are the experts on our wild game management plans - not us common voters.
Finally, the terminology with "Trophy Hunting" in this proposition is misleading. Trophy Hunting is already illegal in CO as defined as "wanton waste" laws. Lion hunters are required to prepare the meat to eat just like elk and deer hunters.
Below are some additional resources that I found that may help shed some light on this initiative and I wanted to share it with you all before you cast your votes over the next few weeks. Happy to chat more if you have questions or simply want to talk through this.
CPR
Colorado Sun
Screen shot from CPW page:
Please feel free to forward this to any other Colorado voters you may know.
saw this over on rokslide
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sounds like senator dylan roberts, who is seemingly hunters strongest ally in this state anymore, has had this brought to his attentions and he is concerned about it.
i suggest people send many e-mails and phone calls to representatives, cpw leadership, and the AG. this feels illegal - i'd be curious if anyone with some legal expertise would agree.
Current CPW commissioners promoting proposition 127 with lies.
Current CPW commissioners wrote an opinion piece published in the Durango Herald and I suspect elsewhere. The pro prop 127 piece by the commissioners is a disgrace and should disqualify them from public service. The piece is filled with false, intentionally misleading information, and blatant...
rokslide.com
sounds like senator dylan roberts, who is seemingly hunters strongest ally in this state anymore, has had this brought to his attentions and he is concerned about it.
i suggest people send many e-mails and phone calls to representatives, cpw leadership, and the AG. this feels illegal - i'd be curious if anyone with some legal expertise would agree.
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