Irrelevant
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I AM a scientist, a geologist.
You don't need to Google it... the answer to every question you've asked is located the same damn page that's been linked quoted a dozen times.
If you want to talk about the Little Ice Age
Climate Change
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You don't need to Google it... the answer to every question you've asked is located the same damn page that's been linked quoted a dozen times.
If you want to talk about the Little Ice Age
BigHornRam
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I don't have grandkids so my opinions don't hold as much weight, but if I did I would be as concerned with the anti-humanist bent of many of the climate activists, as I am with climate change.
Elkmagnet
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rjthehunter
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So I don't see why humans are being blamed "most of these climate changes are due to" the word most means they have no clue. It could be all, but they don't know.
You can't argue that sponsors usually receive the answer they hope for. Something about don't bite the hand that feeds you. There's over 30k scientists that don't agree with the climate change movement or whatever we're gonna call it. What I'm getting at is; no one knows why the earth is warming up. But for now, it's nothing abnormal. People get too worried about stuff and instantly think the world will end
The parallels between DIY / Public Land Hunt forum banter and PEW Research regarding "Climate Change". A fair read, for those interested.
www.pewresearch.org
The Politics of Climate
Americans are polarized over the causes and cures of climate change and how much they trust climate scientists, but most support a role for scientists in climate policy and expanding solar and wind energy.
www.pewresearch.org
lots more interesting posts
My one statement still stands about climate policies well I think so anyway lol
The USA cant be responsible for all of this issue any any climate agreement that penalizes us and lets other countries pollute as much as possible for the next 10, 20 or 30 yrs due to the fact they are not as developed makes no sense
And like it or not fossil fuels can not be lived without at this point, and to many in power have more interest in an agenda and $ from others that have an agenda than any real solutions
So what can we do wind and solar cant fix this nuclear is a good alternative but has problems too esp. with many on left ,Im not the most ejamakated about this but read a lot and we should be accountable as a country and do our best for the planet and I think we are doing alot better then we did in the 70s but once again only about 1/2 of the world is even trying to do anything or even held accountable for their actions
I dont have answers but do know hypocrisy when I see it . Like making tens of millions of dollars flying around the world in a private jet spouting to everyone else to stop using fossil fuels or putting in a book a great thing would be for gas to be 6 $ a gallon so people would use less when your worth 100 million $ not even thinking on how that would hurt so many folks
My one statement still stands about climate policies well I think so anyway lol
The USA cant be responsible for all of this issue any any climate agreement that penalizes us and lets other countries pollute as much as possible for the next 10, 20 or 30 yrs due to the fact they are not as developed makes no sense
And like it or not fossil fuels can not be lived without at this point, and to many in power have more interest in an agenda and $ from others that have an agenda than any real solutions
So what can we do wind and solar cant fix this nuclear is a good alternative but has problems too esp. with many on left ,Im not the most ejamakated about this but read a lot and we should be accountable as a country and do our best for the planet and I think we are doing alot better then we did in the 70s but once again only about 1/2 of the world is even trying to do anything or even held accountable for their actions
I dont have answers but do know hypocrisy when I see it . Like making tens of millions of dollars flying around the world in a private jet spouting to everyone else to stop using fossil fuels or putting in a book a great thing would be for gas to be 6 $ a gallon so people would use less when your worth 100 million $ not even thinking on how that would hurt so many folks
People need to lead by example. Those who are so certain that man is the reason for climate change need to start. Have a big pickup truck? By a prius, you don't need that truck. Got a home over 1400 sq feet? Shut down and stop heating parts of it. no one needs a big house. Need a new roof? Install solar shingles. Install a windmill in your yard. Stop buying any product that you say is blame for the problem. Whatever it takes, but take the lead and show everyone how it's done and others will follow sooner or later. I just don't want it shoved in my face like the new green deal.
BigHornRam
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People are sheep. They need to be told what to do. It's for their own good anyway.
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Agree with the sentiment.
That said an important thing to keep is this old symbol and the three R's. Reduce is number one for a reason. It's actually better to keep your big truck and drive it to 300,000 miles than it is to buy a prius. Though to your point, when it is time to upgrade go with item that is the greenest (although that might in reality be the most durable one).
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rwc101
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There are plenty of people leading by example. I'm no saint on the issue, but I can't count the number of times someone has "rolled coal" in my face when cycling to work. Individuals' decisions have negligible effect on a problem that needs global and systemic solutions.
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@rjthehunter, you see RJ the hunt talk community is a bunch of climate warriors
Let's See Your Dirtbagmobiles!
Madman - way too classy for this thread. I like it. It is no dirtbagmobile. Well, I use it for beating around the Rockies, beat it to hell, then restore it again, kind of a labor of love, but thanks for the compliment!
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Long Drive with High Mileage Truck
BTW, I have front and rear sets of the diamond pattern, quick install chains and am a BIG fan. Used them on the jeep prior to this and now 2 seasons on Doug. Easy to put on and they give good lateral stability and bite in snow and mud.
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Can't decide if Vek, hank4elk, or wapitiBob is the biggest commie tree hugger.... tough call...
noharleyyet
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Is there a graph, pie chart, or venn diagram for the efficacy of conscience shaming?
Asking for a friend...
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Asking for a friend...
@hockeystick
Woodrow F Call
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And they are a variety of people from conservatives who love Trump to liberals who don't. In general they are good people doing good work.
BigHornRam
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Some good information to dig through here.
www.epa.gov
Sources of Greenhouse Gas Emissions | US EPA
Sources of greenhouse gas emissions, inculding electricity production, tranportation, industry, agriculture, and forestry.
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This has also been my experience in various fields. My wife and I feel like the medical field in CO and the OG industry in CO are pretty similar is this regard.
Woodrow F Call
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I was really just trying to head off the conspiracy theorists who will tell you that they are government pawns who are just doing what the government tells them too and there is no way to get any truth out of NASA or the EPA or any information that doesn't fall in line with their thinking.
The problem with that line of thought is that all those people who work for those agencies are made up of people like you and me. For the most part, they are just regular people and in general, good people. And when you get enough people in a group, a secret can't be kept, especially if it's a big cover up or something. Still someone won't be able to reason that out.
For everyone else, there is some good information on climate change on NASA's site. I'm not sure how much of it is really due to man, but I'm sure some of it is. People didn't think we could cause a dark haze over LA, destroy the Bison herds, create the dust bowl, etc.
Climate Change - NASA Science
NASA is a global leader in studying Earth’s changing climate.
climate.nasa.gov
Evidence - NASA Science
Takeaways The rate of change since the mid-20th century is unprecedented over millennia. Earth’s climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of the last ice age about 11,700 years ago marking...
climate.nasa.gov
we always tried to help where we could. We never bought wine in cardboard containers and the cork from the bottles were recycled into fishing bobbers. The wine also worked as a sleeping/pain relief pill, which eliminated us buying sleeping/pain pills in plastic containers All by ourselves we have given mother earth a few more hours to live. Oh I forgot, by cremating , we will not be putting a variety of different materials into mother earth. Just thinking about this makes me want me to toast our efforts with a glass of wine.
Harley, This doesn't really fit this thread, but for some reason I keep thinking about "Old dogs, Children and watermelon wine" if it was Friday and the theme was dogs, children, wine or climate control, I would ask you to post it up for me (-:
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rwc101
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I can't get 6 scientist to agree on where to have a meeting. No idea how tens of thousands of them would be on the same page about a conspiracy.
BigHornRam
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I know its early in the year, but I'm nominating this for hunt talks 2020 post of the year. That was FUNNY!
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