Brother's ?

[antlerradar]

We kind on got off message in the Montana Proposal thread so I thought I would start a new one.
I think that these two buck are closely related. As you can see in the pictures the antlers of the two bucks are very similar, the bottom forks are almost identical. same shape, blading and almost the same length on the points. The only big difference is in the brow tines. The bucks lived less than two miles apart and my best guess is that the buck with the smaller brow tine was born in 90 and the large brow tine buck was born in 91. I could be off by a year ether way. I saw close thirty 170 or better bucks within a few miles of where these two bucks lived and dozens of other old bucks will lesser antlers. These two bucks are the best of the best, easily in the top 5 I have seen close to where they lived. I am thinking it is likely that they are half brothers, maybe even full brothers. Thought from the rest of you?

 

[Deez Nutz]

Obviously nobody can say definitively, but they sure appear to have a lot of similarities. Awesome finds!

 

[Big Sky Guy]

Have no idea on pricing but you could send a sample to WGI in Canada and they could run parentage to see what, if any relation they have:

WGI - Wildlife Genetics International - Nelson British Columbia Canada

 

[antlerradar]

Have no idea on pricing but you could send a sample to WGI in Canada and they could run parentage to see what, if any relation they have:

WGI - Wildlife Genetics International - Nelson British Columbia Canada

I wonder what you would need to get DNA from shed antlers?

 

[Deez Nutz]

Have no idea on pricing but you could send a sample to WGI in Canada and they could run parentage to see what, if any relation they have:

WGI - Wildlife Genetics International - Nelson British Columbia Canada

I had no idea they could do genetic testing on antlers. That's wild. I've got a handful of bulls that were killed from the same area, would be interesting to get them tested just for curiosity sake.

 

[Shed God]

Is it the same buck, just 1 year apart?

 

[Shed God]

Never mind its not. The bottom pic wouldn't load for me. Possibly relation though.

 

[Big Sky Guy]

I wonder what you would need to get DNA from shed antlers?

There is a drop down on their site:

"Collect samples by drilling into the core of the bone or antler to the full depth of a 3mm (1/8") drill bit. Don't burn the sample!
Bone and antler shavings should be stored dry in unwaxed paper envelopes. Tape the envelope closed if you are worried about shavings leaking out."

If anyone does this please let me know, curious. I can assist in shipping across border if needed as we have a USFWS import/export permit.

 

[antlerradar]

Is it the same buck, just 1 year apart?

The buck with the big brow tines was shot in 98 and the other was shot in 96.

 

[antlerradar]

Have no idea on pricing but you could send a sample to WGI in Canada and they could run parentage to see what, if any relation they have:

WGI - Wildlife Genetics International - Nelson British Columbia Canada

I just gave then a call, out of my price range.

 

[Ought Six]

The buck with the big brow tines was shot in 98 and the other was shot in 96.

What did they end up grossing?

 

[antlerradar]

The buck with the big brow tines, in the 190's, the other was over 220 with a 194 inch net typical frame,

 

[Ought Six]

The buck with the big brow tines, in the 190's, the other was over 220 with a 194 inch net typical frame,

The habitat in that area must have changed significantly for the worse, my condolences

 

[The Hedgehog]

The habitat in that area must have changed significantly for the worse, my condolences

Severe lead poisoning outbreak. Happens every November in Montana.

 

[Ought Six]

Severe lead poisoning outbreak. Happens every November in Montana.

 

[Shed God]

Are the genetics still there Antler radar.

 

[TheTone]

Are the genetics still there Antler radar.

Where would they have went?

 

[Shed God]

Killed off to a point 1991 or what ever along time ago. Bucks travel a ways in the rut. They rut low. Mostly.

 

[DFS]

Where would they have went?

The way of the scuz head.

 

[Shed God]

I don't c some genetics in certain units that I did 20 to 30 yrs ago.