Anyone else see this?

Elk Shape Podcast from a couple of years ago. Good listen. Clearly he is passionate and has an extensive network of outfitter and landowner contacts which helps. And spends lots of time in the woods.

 
No idea what you mean^
Spends a bunch of money to buy the tag, spends a bunch of money to hire people to find the biggest bull in the area and keep tabs on it, spends a bunch of money fly out and get driven/walked/"guided" up to the current position of the bull, shoots the bull, takes a picture with the people he gave a bunch of money to make sure he shot the biggest bull he could for the tag he bought.
 
He has the time and funds to hunt anywhere he wants because his family owns UPS. He hunts the Rez a lot, and the videos I've seen, he makes the guide, which is required, stay back behind him. He also buys enough raffle tickets in OR and WA to win a lot of hunts. This Bull was on a WA raffle tag. Unlike others that have the money to afford these hunts, he has the skill and patience to kill giant Bulls, no posse and paid scouters required.
That's my take too. Money/time-rich hunter with the drive/skills to back it up. Pretty amazing animal!
 
I hope Lee and Tiff figure out where it's at in Washington and pack there shit up and get ef out of Montana.

Anyone hating on a guy that clearly knows how to hunt and kill big bulls is laughable. Kinda like shitting on Cody Robbins for killing giant deer. Most people wouldn't even have a fkn clue what to do if they ran into a bull like that including me. Good job to the lucky hunter. If you haven't looked him up he's got quite the history of chasing giant bulls across the west.
 
Spends a bunch of money to buy the tag, spends a bunch of money to hire people to find the biggest bull in the area and keep tabs on it, spends a bunch of money fly out and get driven/walked/"guided" up to the current position of the bull, shoots the bull, takes a picture with the people he gave a bunch of money to make sure he shot the biggest bull he could for the tag he bought.
Like I said, if that is your thing.
I don't get too worked up over record seekers.
 
I'll be the first to admit that I simply didn't believe that could be a wild free ranging bull. Sounds like I was wrong.

Seems like you hit the nail on the head with this one.
I wonder if the locals put out supplements, and I'm sure there is plenty of alfalfa around. If the elk can keep from wandering too far, he can stay alive until the price is right. I suspect the situation is not much different than that for Bighorns.
 
I think comparable to the spider bull. And a few others. May not be game farm but uh definitely a juiced bull. What records are in the book washington and oregon the history. Granted some very managed units today. But uh reality is the northern and southern park elk probably the greatest elk herd in modern time. Big park elk that wonder out rarely go over 400. Some push 430. It mirrors what has become. Go figure a rich guy shot it. I mean I don't think people realize what it takes a natural elk to get 375.

It a shows money buys anything. Get the #*^@#* out of here.

My uncles dad me my brothers shed hunted great units. My dad uncles 70s 80s. Just saying antler radar what your opionon.

But just saying that and spider bull same thing. Not natural. Money involved. It bullshit
 
No really. This is a famous colorado bull. I think 425. Gross. Idk. But in places elk are protected and left alone unless they wonder out. Bigger bulls over 400 to 430. 100 plus yrs of big bulls passing there genes. Protected. Then utah oregon washington growing bullshit. Hmm. Money. Estes protected well. But northern herd killed at will. Sad for me. History. Seen it. But uh reality total bs. 490 is that sci
 

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Young face for such a bull. U ever seen an old bull. Scars, from fighting. Huge body. But slow walking. Sometimes broke tines. That bull younger than 8. Age him. Huge body. My opionon big elk active rut $*)Q!#@$ years. Sex years color up sharp tines. Old bulls loners. Just saying. Age him
 

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Idk how to describe this without getting banned. But here goes.

The dude owns ups like the Austids of the world. They buying elk. Regardless of fair chase.

So my crowd understands it. These dudes are paying for pussy.

They whoring out wildlife and enhancing them. Genes are passed. Haven't seen spider bulls genes since. But these guys smarter. Learned. It bullshit.

Thus guy UPS guy. He hunt MT otc no chance he kill a bull by himself. He give up day 1.
 
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