Ammon Bundy convicted in trespassing trial

[Europe]

This might do it!


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nice try and good idea Dave. I think a couple posters on this thread may have already eaten too much cheese

Think I’m going to head down to the public library tomorrow and “take back” all those books. Power to the people!

as per our conversation---as long as the library you visit is NOT in downtown Portland

JFC what a shit show going on in the Citizen "Free" Press comment section.

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changed my mind---carry on gentlemen

 

[VikingsGuy]

Bundy proposes to "wrest federal land from state control." What the heck is that supposed to mean?

Bundy is a fool, but let's not be too cute with our criticism - it makes sense when you use "state" to refer to the federal government system - a common term. For example, both communist soviet Russia and fascist Japan were "statist" forms of government, and we have a secretary of state, and state dinners, etc. etc.

 

[rwc101]

L'etat c'est moi

 

[Oak]

Actually the original quote from the LA Times was “He wants to use the governorship to wrest ownership of federal land for state control.”

 

[RobertD]

His premise that the "federal government is forcing everyone down into big cities" is also flawed.

 

[Elkmagnet]

JFC what a shit show going on in the Citizen "Free" Press comment section.

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Incel's.

I cannot find a link without enough language to get me ejected.

Google "the rage of incels"

 

[rtraverdavis]

Incel's.

I cannot find a link without enough language to get me ejected.

Google "the rage of incels"

Those guys are hilarious.

 

[Elkdog]

I would like to personally thank everyone involved in this thread. I have been doing real life stuff and off the internet for a few weeks. This thread was the absolute PERFECT welcome back. I’ve enjoyed it immensely!

THANK YOU ALL!

 

[OntarioHunter]

Southern Idaho is a poster child for terrible land use. Haven't been down there since my grandmother's funeral twelve years ago. Blew me away. Bundy's promise to turn federal land into endless mobile home trailer parks so everyone can have an affordable home with a view is exactly the kind of campaign rhetoric I would expect from someone living in Emmett (the Greater Boise Area).

 

[VikingsGuy]

Those guys are absolutely crazy.

Fixed it for you.

 

[rtraverdavis]

Fixed it for you.

100%

 

[noharleyyet]

His platform is useless w/o a byte on Wyo's 90/10.....

 

[VikingsGuy]

As it pertains to the Bundys, one thing I did notice over the last year, is the inconsistency in thought and value of many on the “right” when it comes to law and order.

Sadly, we have to a large extent ceased being a society driven by logic and reason. We have returned to a society driven by tribal allegiance and blind following of the prescribed tribal ideology. Anything your tribe does is by definition "justified", "misunderstood", "furthering a greater cause", while the same things done by the OTHERS are "inexcusable", "misguided" and "dangerous".

 

[SaskHunter]

Bundy's promise to turn federal land into endless mobile home trailer parks so everyone can have an affordable home with a view is exactly the kind of campaign rhetoric I would expect from someone living in Emmett (the Greater Boise Area).

Boujee trailer parks!

 

[Nameless Range]

Sadly, we have to a large extent ceased being a society driven by logic and reason. We have returned to a society driven by tribal allegiance and blind following of the prescribed tribal ideology. Anything your tribe does is by definition "justified", "misunderstood", "furthering a greater cause", while the same things done by the OTHERS are "inexcusable", "misguided" and "dangerous".

From Eliezer Yudkowski's essay, Policy Debates Should Not Appear One-Sided:

"Politics is the mind-killer. Arguments are soldiers. Once you know which side you’re on, you must support all arguments of that side, and attack all arguments that appear to favor the enemy side; otherwise it’s like stabbing your soldiers in the back. If you abide within that pattern, policy debates will also appear one-sided to you—the costs and drawbacks of your favored policy are enemy soldiers, to be attacked by any means necessary."

 

[noharleyyet]

From Eliezer Yudkowski's essay, Policy Debates Should Not Appear One-Sided:

"Politics is the mind-killer. Arguments are soldiers. Once you know which side you’re on, you must support all arguments of that side, and attack all arguments that appear to favor the enemy side; otherwise it’s like stabbing your soldiers in the back. If you abide within that pattern, policy debates will also appear one-sided to you—the costs and drawbacks of your favored policy are enemy soldiers, to be attacked by any means necessary."

Any means to an end....the ambidextrous enigma wrapped conundrum.

Me/thee

"Hooray for our side."

 

[Gerald Martin]

Any means to an end....the ambidextrous enigma wrapped conundrum.

Me/thee

"Hooray for our side."

I have met the enemy and they are.....working for the other team
the Clintons.

 

[OntarioHunter]

Any means to an end....the ambidextrous enigma wrapped conundrum.

Me/thee

"Hooray for our side."

Wait a minute! What do condoms and enimas have to do with public lands issue? I'm reporting you!

 

[noharleyyet]

I have met the enemy and they are.....working for the other team
the Clintons.

...and now, if you please, Gerald Martin will lead us the the byGawdwin Invocation.

 

[Gerald Martin]

...and now, if you please, Gerald Martin will lead us the the byGawdwin Invocation.

“I did not have relations political or otherwise with those folks.”